Spear Identification?

David · 5th November 2017, 08:30 PM

Hi folks. A friend of mine sent be photos of this spear hoping i might be able to ID it, but it is out of my range of knowledge. Anyone know anything about this?
It does seem meant for throwing as it seems to be fletched for flight stability.
I am sorry, i don't know the exact dimensions here, but hopefully the form is obvious to somebody here. Thanks!

asomotif · 5th November 2017, 10:21 PM

Looks more like an Arrow to me.

Unfortunately no idea where it could be from.

colin henshaw · 5th November 2017, 10:29 PM

Methinks its an arrow from South America somewhere, maybe Guyana/Northern Brazil ?

Robert · 5th November 2017, 11:12 PM

The overall shape of the tip of the arrowhead, the file work on the shank and the decoration on the shaft looks very similar to that found on some Philippine arrows that I have seen.

Best,
Robert

David · 5th November 2017, 11:13 PM

Yes, arrow is probably more appropriate, but i did not see this in person and my friend gave me no image of the entire object with size reference.
But i do believe we have narrowed it down and what we found seems to confirm my original belief that it is SEA. This seems to be from Aeta Negrito in the mountainous parts of Luzon. Can anyone confirm that to know any more about these arrows? First time i am seeing such a beast.

David · 5th November 2017, 11:22 PM

I did find some talk of these on an archery forum, but i'd love to find out more for my friend's sake.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/i...?topic=22060.0
I changed the thread title to reflect "arrow" rather than spear.

David · 6th November 2017, 11:42 PM

Anyone else has some tidbits here. I tried searching our archives, but found very little on arrows from Luzon. Bill posted some arrows in this thread that may well be PI, but they seem a bit different from this in the shaft so i'm not sure they are from the same area.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=luzon+arrow

Ian · 7th November 2017, 06:23 AM

The fletching looks either Negrito or Igorot. Both are from Central/Northern Luzon. There are similarly shaped arrow heads shown in Krieger's plates elsewhere on this site—those hunting arrowheads are detachable and ascribed to the Negritos.

There is some information also in Fox's article on The Pinatubo Negritos, part of which is found here.

Ian.

5th November 2017, 08:30 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,130	Arrow Identification? Hi folks. A friend of mine sent be photos of this spear hoping i might be able to ID it, but it is out of my range of knowledge. Anyone know anything about this? It does seem meant for throwing as it seems to be fletched for flight stability. I am sorry, i don't know the exact dimensions here, but hopefully the form is obvious to somebody here. Thanks! Attached Images Last edited by David; 5th November 2017 at 11:20 PM.

5th November 2017, 10:21 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Looks more like an Arrow to me. Unfortunately no idea where it could be from.

5th November 2017, 10:29 PM	#3
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Methinks its an arrow from South America somewhere, maybe Guyana/Northern Brazil ?

5th November 2017, 11:12 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	The overall shape of the tip of the arrowhead, the file work on the shank and the decoration on the shaft looks very similar to that found on some Philippine arrows that I have seen. Best, Robert

5th November 2017, 11:13 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,130	Yes, arrow is probably more appropriate, but i did not see this in person and my friend gave me no image of the entire object with size reference. But i do believe we have narrowed it down and what we found seems to confirm my original belief that it is SEA. This seems to be from Aeta Negrito in the mountainous parts of Luzon. Can anyone confirm that to know any more about these arrows? First time i am seeing such a beast.

5th November 2017, 11:22 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,130	I did find some talk of these on an archery forum, but i'd love to find out more for my friend's sake. http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/i...?topic=22060.0 I changed the thread title to reflect "arrow" rather than spear.

6th November 2017, 11:42 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,130	Anyone else has some tidbits here. I tried searching our archives, but found very little on arrows from Luzon. Bill posted some arrows in this thread that may well be PI, but they seem a bit different from this in the shaft so i'm not sure they are from the same area. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=luzon+arrow

7th November 2017, 06:23 AM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,209	The fletching looks either Negrito or Igorot. Both are from Central/Northern Luzon. There are similarly shaped arrow heads shown in Krieger's plates elsewhere on this site—those hunting arrowheads are detachable and ascribed to the Negritos. There is some information also in Fox's article on The Pinatubo Negritos, part of which is found here. Ian.