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Old 14th April 2023, 02:20 PM   #1
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Hello
I want to share my new 2 pieces!!!!
They are 2 swords with unusual hilts, I wish you enjoy with pictures, any information is wellcome!!!
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Old 14th April 2023, 07:02 PM   #2
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Wow, those are super nice, Carlos!

I'd tend to place the longer one as Sulu. Quite an unusual blade - it almost looks like a hybrid between a slender barung and a straight kris with asymmetric sabre tip. What's its length and thickness?

Hilt is typical Naga style. The dark inlays are made from wood?

I have an even tougher find to reliably classify the second piece. Congrats on these finds!

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Old 15th April 2023, 01:27 AM   #3
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They’re beautiful!! Congrats Carlos.
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Old 15th April 2023, 03:53 AM   #4
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The pommel on the ebony(?)hilt seems reminiscent of the Lasara motif seen on Nias swords.
Lucky you.


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Old 15th April 2023, 04:14 AM   #5
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Two very nice swords. The hilts are what stand out. The familiar Naga motif on the longer one and (perhaps) a Lazara form on the other. I agree with Rick that the shorter one is likely from Sumatra, but it's not a familiar blade for Nias. That Naga style has been associated with Sulu swords previously.
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Old 15th April 2023, 04:42 AM   #6
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Wonderful examples!

The second piece with the ebony carving seems to me to have a Visayan look, perhaps like from Panay Island.

Inserts on the barong look like ivory the black parts do look like ebony inserts. I love the naga form on these. When I grow up I may get one too......
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Old 15th April 2023, 08:42 PM   #7
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Hello Rick & Ian,

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The pommel on the ebony(?)hilt seems reminiscent of the Lasara motif seen on Nias swords.
This figural hilt is definitely not from Nias. I do see where you are coming from. However, the carving details and ferrule as well as the blade don't vibe with Nias (nor any related cultures).


There is a Nias hilt style that seems even closer to Carlos' example than the most well known Nias sword hilt. Let me see if I can dredge up a pic for posting.

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