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28th July 2018, 10:08 AM | #1 |
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Saxon wheellockpistol 1564
I got this very early wheellock pistol made in 1564 some days ago. It is with a total length of 635mm very long and shows the coat of arms of the archdutchy of Saxony on the buttplate. On the barrel there is an unknown maker's mark and I ask if there is anybody out there who is able to identify this mark.
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28th July 2018, 11:18 AM | #2 |
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I wouldn't know the mark, but i know this is a very nice pistol ... which i wish i had .
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28th July 2018, 02:07 PM | #3 |
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Hi Corado
My first thoughts concur with Fernando's comments LOL What a beautiful, early Saxon pistol. Some observations: STOCK: The grain look decoration almost makes it appear as if the stock was covered in leather. And just the right amount of ivory/bone decoration, not over-done. Very neat effect. TRIGGER GUARD: A very simple design that seems common to the period. Notice the loop extends well beyond the trigger itself. It was likely designed this way for the use of leather gloves. BARREL: Where the wedding band transition from octagon to round location, the fine chisel effect you only see on the better made guns. The pistol appears to have seen normal usage, but kept in good condition. It's certainly a wonderful addition to your collection. Congratulations. Rick |
28th July 2018, 03:10 PM | #4 |
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The pistol differs from later examples as a sign of early make in two details: The spring of the cock is still not fixed by a screw to the lockplate but by a cotter at the inside of the plate. The trigger mechanism with a long lever turning around a screw and moved by the trigger is totaly different to later examples.
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28th July 2018, 04:23 PM | #5 |
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Hi.
Only for a concern. It seems to me that the trigger bar has been replaced. because the backward pressure on its end does not mean horizontal movement, to remove the end of the wheel. In addition, the lock has firing insurance, as in some copies of the wheel, and it is not seen how it works. It would be necessary to have the pieces of the lock disassembled, to see how they interact. Sorry for the translator Affectionately |
28th July 2018, 04:43 PM | #6 |
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Hi Colorado,
A very fine wheel lock puffer pistol. The date makes it from the Leibgart of Augustus I. The auction of Hermann Historica has sold a similar gun at there 2011 auction ( 24.11.2011) lot number 23. I can not for now find the marking in my books but it looks like a spade? |
29th July 2018, 08:16 AM | #7 |
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@ FernandoK
here are the fotos of the real Thing - i wanted to avoid dismantling so I took fotos of another piece first, sorry. As you can see there is an angle between the bar and its end so the trigger is easily able to move the bar backwards. @ Marcus den toom: the pistol by Hermanns auction 2011 is indeed the same type but not my pistol - there are many differences at the lock. corrado26 |
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