Jawa Dapurs and Wayang Figures

Rick · 13th August 2006, 11:25 PM

I ran across this page a while back and found it interesting :
http://www.nikhef.nl/~tonvr/keris/keris2/keris01.html

The author states :
" Not only do wayang characters have special Kerises, but Dapur Keris are also named after wayang characters: e.g. Dapur Karna Tinanding, Semar Tinandhu and so on. "

I'd love to see some examples of these Wayang Kerisses ; who's got one and can you explain the connection and the features that determine it ?

A. G. Maisey · 14th August 2006, 12:53 AM

Here`s a pasopati.

Dapur determined by ricikan, which are:- kembang kacang pogok,two lambe gajah ,two sogokan, ri pandhan and gusen.

The wayang connection is only in name.

Arjuna had a magical weapon, that was an arrow, and it was named "pasopati".

Alam Shah · 14th August 2006, 06:08 AM

Here's a Pandawa Karna Tinandhing

The ricikan includes, an elaborate ganja kelap lintah with elaborate greneng works. A bungkul, a sogokan depan and belakang, 2 pejetan, 1 lambe gajah on both sides, 2 jalu memet on both sides, 2 belalai gajah (or kembang kacang) and a set of pudak sategal (normally bungkem).

No magical weapon, just the dapur, with a philosophy to commemorate Karna sacrifice.

Karna remains a tragic figure. A brave hero, a courageous spirit who braved impossible odds in his whole life, and died with terrifying courage, valor and honor and to rise to immortality in fame.

Alam Shah · 14th August 2006, 08:04 AM

Here's a Karna Tinandhing.

The dapur is a straight bladed type.

The ricikan are similar to the pandawa karna tinandhing, minus the pudak sategal and is using ganja sepang.

From Simatua's Collection...

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/albums/...5_00.sized.jpg

Ria · 24th August 2006, 08:25 AM

Alan, Alam Syah
Thank you for sharing the pictures.

Alan,
I supposed that Pasopati is yours. I could noticed clearly the border of gusen and kruwingan, almost to the tip of blade. I guess, the gonjo should be perfect fit with Surakarta? Pamor material, meteorite?

Regards,

Ria

A. G. Maisey · 24th August 2006, 10:01 AM

Yes Pak Ria, my work.

The definition in the pics is not quite good enough to see all the close detail. I intend to put this and some other modern pieces up on my site within a month or so, and I can put bigger pics up there.

The gonjo is Surakarta, but I didn't cut the rondha very well. There are many better examples of Surakarta rondha than appear on this blade.

No, this is not a meteorite blade, it is ordinary commercial nickel from Europe, welded with some unknown ferric material---probably iron from an old bridge.

13th August 2006, 11:25 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Jawa Dapurs and Wayang Figures I ran across this page a while back and found it interesting : http://www.nikhef.nl/~tonvr/keris/keris2/keris01.html The author states : " Not only do wayang characters have special Kerises, but Dapur Keris are also named after wayang characters: e.g. Dapur Karna Tinanding, Semar Tinandhu and so on. " I'd love to see some examples of these Wayang Kerisses ; who's got one and can you explain the connection and the features that determine it ?

14th August 2006, 12:53 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	Here`s a pasopati. Dapur determined by ricikan, which are:- kembang kacang pogok,two lambe gajah ,two sogokan, ri pandhan and gusen. The wayang connection is only in name. Arjuna had a magical weapon, that was an arrow, and it was named "pasopati". Attached Images

14th August 2006, 06:08 AM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Pandawa Karna Tinandhing Here's a Pandawa Karna Tinandhing The ricikan includes, an elaborate ganja kelap lintah with elaborate greneng works. A bungkul, a sogokan depan and belakang, 2 pejetan, 1 lambe gajah on both sides, 2 jalu memet on both sides, 2 belalai gajah (or kembang kacang) and a set of pudak sategal (normally bungkem). No magical weapon, just the dapur, with a philosophy to commemorate Karna sacrifice. Karna remains a tragic figure. A brave hero, a courageous spirit who braved impossible odds in his whole life, and died with terrifying courage, valor and honor and to rise to immortality in fame. Attached Images Last edited by Alam Shah; 14th August 2006 at 01:16 PM.

14th August 2006, 08:04 AM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Here's a Karna Tinandhing. The dapur is a straight bladed type. The ricikan are similar to the pandawa karna tinandhing, minus the pudak sategal and is using ganja sepang. From Simatua's Collection... http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/albums/...5_00.sized.jpg Last edited by Alam Shah; 14th August 2006 at 01:51 PM.

24th August 2006, 08:25 AM	#5
Ria Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 14	Sorry, not to change the topic!! Alan, Alam Syah Thank you for sharing the pictures. Alan, I supposed that Pasopati is yours. I could noticed clearly the border of gusen and kruwingan, almost to the tip of blade. I guess, the gonjo should be perfect fit with Surakarta? Pamor material, meteorite? Regards, Ria

24th August 2006, 10:01 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	Yes Pak Ria, my work. The definition in the pics is not quite good enough to see all the close detail. I intend to put this and some other modern pieces up on my site within a month or so, and I can put bigger pics up there. The gonjo is Surakarta, but I didn't cut the rondha very well. There are many better examples of Surakarta rondha than appear on this blade. No, this is not a meteorite blade, it is ordinary commercial nickel from Europe, welded with some unknown ferric material---probably iron from an old bridge.