Kris naga

Jean · 30th May 2021, 11:19 AM

Dear friends,
I won this peculiar kris blade at a French auction, any opinion about its origin and age? I have my own guess but am not sure, look at the hilt and greneng especially.
Sorry for the poor pic from the seller, I will send better ones when I receive it.
Regards

David · 30th May 2021, 05:43 PM

Well the hilt confuses me. It looks to be metal. Brass? I don't think the hilt can be particularly helpful identifying the origin of the blade however.

Jean · 30th May 2021, 09:19 PM

Hello David,
Yes, the hilt looks to be made from (cast?) brass or gilt brass and is not standard for a kris hilt but it may be an indicator of the origin... I will see and comment upon receipt.
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 30th May 2021, 10:44 PM

Jean, I cannot see sufficient in these photos to take a guess at origin, but I do find the trifolate greneng features interesting. This type of greneng has been noted in some very old blades. My feeling is East Jawa, this is not a guess, not an opinion, it is a feeling.

Jean · 31st May 2021, 09:59 AM

Thank you Alan, I will send better pic as soon as I can.

Athanase · 31st May 2021, 12:21 PM

Hello,

I have already seen this style of handle 2 or 3 times sometimes with more basic Kriss blades. The patina and finish of the handles reminded me of something from the second half of the 20th century and at least one of the associated kriss blades was from the same period with certainty.
It is because of these doubts about the age of the handle (and also a little bit of the blade, the photos in the sale are not good) that I did not bid.

30th May 2021, 11:19 AM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Kris naga Dear friends, I won this peculiar kris blade at a French auction, any opinion about its origin and age? I have my own guess but am not sure, look at the hilt and greneng especially. Sorry for the poor pic from the seller, I will send better ones when I receive it. Regards Attached Images

30th May 2021, 05:43 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,126	Well the hilt confuses me. It looks to be metal. Brass? I don't think the hilt can be particularly helpful identifying the origin of the blade however.

30th May 2021, 09:19 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello David, Yes, the hilt looks to be made from (cast?) brass or gilt brass and is not standard for a kris hilt but it may be an indicator of the origin... I will see and comment upon receipt. Regards

30th May 2021, 10:44 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,894	Jean, I cannot see sufficient in these photos to take a guess at origin, but I do find the trifolate greneng features interesting. This type of greneng has been noted in some very old blades. My feeling is East Jawa, this is not a guess, not an opinion, it is a feeling.

31st May 2021, 09:59 AM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Thank you Alan, I will send better pic as soon as I can.

31st May 2021, 12:21 PM	#6
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	Hello, I have already seen this style of handle 2 or 3 times sometimes with more basic Kriss blades. The patina and finish of the handles reminded me of something from the second half of the 20th century and at least one of the associated kriss blades was from the same period with certainty. It is because of these doubts about the age of the handle (and also a little bit of the blade, the photos in the sale are not good) that I did not bid.