Katipunan dagger just ended on Ebay. Brass blade?

Ferguson · 14th December 2007, 03:35 AM

This beautiful piece just ended on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=002

Hopefully the new owner will post pictures when received.

What I don't understand is the brass blade? Being a new collector I haven't run into this before. What is the significance of the blade being brass or bronze?

Thanks, and congrats to the new owner.

Steve Ferguson

Jazz · 16th December 2007, 09:47 PM

It is indeed rare to find weapons that could be positively attributed to the Katipunan movement. Furthermore, European daggers are often mislabeled as Katipunan relic. Just because it is similar in appearance, it's not necessarily a Katipunan sword or dagger. Instead of guessing, one should look for definite Katipunan marks or symbols before labeling such weapon as "Katipunan".
Whoever won that bid is indeed lucky. We just hope the winner does post some close ups since we rarely see something of this importance/magnitude. Congratulations once again.

Tim Simmons · 16th December 2007, 09:55 PM

This non ferrous dagger ended also. I ment to bid on it. There is quite a difference in price

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=006

Robert · 16th December 2007, 10:06 PM

Hi Steve,
I ask the same question about the use of brass and copper for blades on some Philippine daggers that I have. I was hoping that when you ask about it in reference to this beautiful piece that it might bring more answers. I too hope that who ever was lucky enough to get this will post better pictures.

Robert

Rick · 16th December 2007, 11:52 PM

Possibly the answer to this question may be rooted in esoteric beliefs .

Battara · 17th December 2007, 05:35 PM

The winner and I have been in contact and we both think that the brass blade is unusual, but may be ceremonial or even talismanic in nature and purpose, since Katipuneros were into that. I will let the owner speak for himself on the rest.

And yes, there have been may European and even US Civil War knives that were really Filipino. The Confederate label raises the price considerably of course. There are signs of being a PI dagger besides the Katipunan symbols (not all had them) but it is best to have them.

14th December 2007, 03:35 AM	#1
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Katipunan dagger just ended on Ebay. Brass blade? This beautiful piece just ended on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=002 Hopefully the new owner will post pictures when received. What I don't understand is the brass blade? Being a new collector I haven't run into this before. What is the significance of the blade being brass or bronze? Thanks, and congrats to the new owner. Steve Ferguson

16th December 2007, 09:47 PM	#2
Jazz Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 44	It is indeed rare to find weapons that could be positively attributed to the Katipunan movement. Furthermore, European daggers are often mislabeled as Katipunan relic. Just because it is similar in appearance, it's not necessarily a Katipunan sword or dagger. Instead of guessing, one should look for definite Katipunan marks or symbols before labeling such weapon as "Katipunan". Whoever won that bid is indeed lucky. We just hope the winner does post some close ups since we rarely see something of this importance/magnitude. Congratulations once again.

16th December 2007, 09:55 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	This non ferrous dagger ended also. I ment to bid on it. There is quite a difference in price . http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=006

16th December 2007, 10:06 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hi Steve, I ask the same question about the use of brass and copper for blades on some Philippine daggers that I have. I was hoping that when you ask about it in reference to this beautiful piece that it might bring more answers. I too hope that who ever was lucky enough to get this will post better pictures. Robert

16th December 2007, 11:52 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,291	Possibly the answer to this question may be rooted in esoteric beliefs .

17th December 2007, 05:35 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	The winner and I have been in contact and we both think that the brass blade is unusual, but may be ceremonial or even talismanic in nature and purpose, since Katipuneros were into that. I will let the owner speak for himself on the rest. And yes, there have been may European and even US Civil War knives that were really Filipino. The Confederate label raises the price considerably of course. There are signs of being a PI dagger besides the Katipunan symbols (not all had them) but it is best to have them.