De Kris

ganjawulung · 7th May 2007, 01:23 PM

Dear All,

Beside keris, I am also collecting books on keris. And the books I appreciate much are: De Kris (Tammens) and The World of The Javanese Kris. But unfortunately, I only read the copies. I am eager to have the original ones. Is is still possible?

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David · 7th May 2007, 05:30 PM

Welcome Ganjawulung (i love this form of gonjo as well

).
The 3 volumes of Tammens' De Kris are still available AFAIK. I know that at least one dealer who posts here has them available and perhaps he will PM you with ordering info.
I don't believe The World of the Javanese Keris is still in print, but copies do still come up for sale. I think there might be one on eBay right at this moment in fact.

ganjawulung · 7th May 2007, 06:41 PM

Thank you David,

Not many Indonesians have original books like De Kris, The World of The Javanese Kris, Gronemann (it has been translated in Indonesian, by an Indonesian scholar who had studied in Germany) and of course the dutch book of Jaspers and Pirngadie.

I always appreciate whatever people outside Indonesia wrote, write or will write about Indonesian Kris. Someone had sent me in the past, a copy of an article in Finnish (or Danish?) with picture of kris in a Rembrandt painting. Phantastic! I appreciate this forum too. Because many Indonesian nowadays, don't even have little knowledge on kris, their own identity... Unfortunately.

I appreciate people like Alan G Massey, one who has encouraged Indonesian contemporary-empu like Yantono or other Solonese kris maker (Yanto, maybe Kamdi etc). I remember too, people like Dietrich Drescher or the German anthropolog Achim Weichrauch who got doctorate (of kris?) from Basel University... Dietrich has made an important experiment on Cilacap sands (to prove old pamor material). And of course people like you, David, Rick and all..

Viva Indonesian Kris...

ganjawulung · 8th May 2007, 12:23 AM

Correction, please..

I am sorry, Alan, for mispelling your name. I should have written Alan G Maisey. Sorry for that mistake...

A. G. Maisey · 8th May 2007, 04:21 AM

No problem ganja.

Its a bit of an unusual name, and people often get it wrong.I've learnt to live with it.

Marcokeris · 8th May 2007, 03:38 PM

Welcome Ganja!!
About the Pirmgadie's book I think is easier to find this book in Indonesia istead of Europe where the prize is fearful.

If you want, you can search all the three Tammens' books at this italian site (but the prize is rather hight) "www.preliber.com"

About keris book do you know how is possible to find an indonesian book written by Marlupi on lombok keris?

7th May 2007, 01:23 PM	#1
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	De Kris Dear All, Beside keris, I am also collecting books on keris. And the books I appreciate much are: De Kris (Tammens) and The World of The Javanese Kris. But unfortunately, I only read the copies. I am eager to have the original ones. Is is still possible? Newest Member

7th May 2007, 05:30 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,110	Welcome Ganjawulung (i love this form of gonjo as well ). The 3 volumes of Tammens' De Kris are still available AFAIK. I know that at least one dealer who posts here has them available and perhaps he will PM you with ordering info. I don't believe The World of the Javanese Keris is still in print, but copies do still come up for sale. I think there might be one on eBay right at this moment in fact.

7th May 2007, 06:41 PM	#3
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Thank you David, Not many Indonesians have original books like De Kris, The World of The Javanese Kris, Gronemann (it has been translated in Indonesian, by an Indonesian scholar who had studied in Germany) and of course the dutch book of Jaspers and Pirngadie. I always appreciate whatever people outside Indonesia wrote, write or will write about Indonesian Kris. Someone had sent me in the past, a copy of an article in Finnish (or Danish?) with picture of kris in a Rembrandt painting. Phantastic! I appreciate this forum too. Because many Indonesian nowadays, don't even have little knowledge on kris, their own identity... Unfortunately. I appreciate people like Alan G Massey, one who has encouraged Indonesian contemporary-empu like Yantono or other Solonese kris maker (Yanto, maybe Kamdi etc). I remember too, people like Dietrich Drescher or the German anthropolog Achim Weichrauch who got doctorate (of kris?) from Basel University... Dietrich has made an important experiment on Cilacap sands (to prove old pamor material). And of course people like you, David, Rick and all.. Viva Indonesian Kris...

8th May 2007, 12:23 AM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Correction, please.. I am sorry, Alan, for mispelling your name. I should have written Alan G Maisey. Sorry for that mistake...

8th May 2007, 04:21 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,876	No problem ganja. Its a bit of an unusual name, and people often get it wrong.I've learnt to live with it.

8th May 2007, 03:38 PM	#6
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Welcome Ganja!! About the Pirmgadie's book I think is easier to find this book in Indonesia istead of Europe where the prize is fearful. If you want, you can search all the three Tammens' books at this italian site (but the prize is rather hight) "www.preliber.com" About keris book do you know how is possible to find an indonesian book written by Marlupi on lombok keris?