bali keris for comment

ronpakis · 31st May 2007, 08:13 PM

this keris, or what's left of it, was found on a mine sweeper wich was damaged in 1940 to avoid capture of the germans. The previous owner took it from the ship when it was left alone. He was then 16 years old. The ship can be seen here: http://www.dutchfleet.net/viewtopic.php?t=7405
The ship was in the harbour of Enkhuizen (netherlands), the city where i live, when it was taken. Any earlier information is unknown (about his particular piece)
It is heavily damaged but it has an incredible nice pamor, udan mas according to Tammens part 2, and also the blade fits the topsheath very good, so worth restoring i would guess. The mendak is unfortunatly missing but what is worse is that it probably once had an pendok, now its gone. In stead of the pendok that part is painted yellow (oker)

(anybody has an old bali mendak?)

Thanks for your comments,

Greetings Ron

Lew · 31st May 2007, 08:24 PM

Nice old Balines keris you have there. You can contact Alan Maisey he has a few nice Balinese mendak/uwer on his website.

http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/uwer.html

Lew

David · 31st May 2007, 09:01 PM

Actually Ron, if you ask me (i suppose i am an optimist

) i would say that the keris is in pretty good shape. Even if you can't restore the sheath, the blade looks great. Needs a good wash and a proper staining, but it has held up rather well, especially considering where it has been living over the years and it's lack of care.
As Lew points out, uwers (mendak) are fairly easy to come by and relatively cheap, even for a silver one.
I can't see if any of the actual wood is missing, but if not you can probably restore the sheath to some form of usefulness.
If you don't want to undertake such a project send it to me. I might not give it back to you afterwards, but i will give it a good home.

Alam Shah · 1st June 2007, 10:06 AM

Hi Ron, nice blade... based on what can be seen, the pamor should be nice as well. I don't think the pamor is udan mas. It looks more like bendo segodo, based on the faint pamor.

The sheath is salvagable and restorable.
Regarding other parts, others had given their opinions.

A. G. Maisey · 1st June 2007, 10:26 AM

I concur with everything that has been said. This is an easy restoration job. and should come up brilliantly.

ronpakis · 1st June 2007, 11:43 AM

Thanks for the comments all.
With some tlc it should turn out rather nice. If it is really udan mas i don't know but tammens calls it that way so it is easily sought after if you have the book. It is almost exactly like his drawing. Im sorry but im unable to make better pictures.
What would you do with the painted part? Im considering to try and find the same colour and repaint it. Right now this is to much damaged to let it stay this way.

Greetings Ron

31st May 2007, 08:13 PM	#1
ronpakis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 75	bali keris for comment this keris, or what's left of it, was found on a mine sweeper wich was damaged in 1940 to avoid capture of the germans. The previous owner took it from the ship when it was left alone. He was then 16 years old. The ship can be seen here: http://www.dutchfleet.net/viewtopic.php?t=7405 The ship was in the harbour of Enkhuizen (netherlands), the city where i live, when it was taken. Any earlier information is unknown (about his particular piece) It is heavily damaged but it has an incredible nice pamor, udan mas according to Tammens part 2, and also the blade fits the topsheath very good, so worth restoring i would guess. The mendak is unfortunatly missing but what is worse is that it probably once had an pendok, now its gone. In stead of the pendok that part is painted yellow (oker) (anybody has an old bali mendak?) Thanks for your comments, Greetings Ron Attached Images

1st June 2007, 11:43 AM	#6
ronpakis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 75	restoring Thanks for the comments all. With some tlc it should turn out rather nice. If it is really udan mas i don't know but tammens calls it that way so it is easily sought after if you have the book. It is almost exactly like his drawing. Im sorry but im unable to make better pictures. What would you do with the painted part? Im considering to try and find the same colour and repaint it. Right now this is to much damaged to let it stay this way. Greetings Ron

31st May 2007, 08:24 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Nice old Balines keris you have there. You can contact Alan Maisey he has a few nice Balinese mendak/uwer on his website. http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/uwer.html Lew

31st May 2007, 09:01 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,125	Actually Ron, if you ask me (i suppose i am an optimist ) i would say that the keris is in pretty good shape. Even if you can't restore the sheath, the blade looks great. Needs a good wash and a proper staining, but it has held up rather well, especially considering where it has been living over the years and it's lack of care. As Lew points out, uwers (mendak) are fairly easy to come by and relatively cheap, even for a silver one. I can't see if any of the actual wood is missing, but if not you can probably restore the sheath to some form of usefulness. If you don't want to undertake such a project send it to me. I might not give it back to you afterwards, but i will give it a good home.

1st June 2007, 10:06 AM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Ron, nice blade... based on what can be seen, the pamor should be nice as well. I don't think the pamor is udan mas. It looks more like bendo segodo, based on the faint pamor. The sheath is salvagable and restorable. Regarding other parts, others had given their opinions.

1st June 2007, 10:26 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	I concur with everything that has been said. This is an easy restoration job. and should come up brilliantly.