Dagger ID please

Atlantia · 9th September 2008, 08:10 PM

Hi all,
Picked this one up today, think I paid over the odds for it, but it was one of 'those' deals! I know the chap and he's a nice bloke and he got me to drive over with a description that sounded like a pesh-kabz. Yes he remembered it totally differently from the reality as its not been out of the drawer in years etc, etc.....

Anyway, it seems fairly familiar,but I can't place it!
Help me out peeps! ;-)

Thanks
Gene

Rich · 9th September 2008, 08:19 PM

It's a Spanish knife from the late 18th-early 19th C. I had one
exactly like it a while back. Sold it for a pretty penny. Nice find.

Rich

Atlantia · 9th September 2008, 08:23 PM

Oh, brilliant! Thanks Rich.

Gonzalo G · 9th September 2008, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

It's a Spanish knife from the late 18th-early 19th C. I had one
exactly like it a while back. Sold it for a pretty penny. Nice find.

Rich

Yes. It seems to belong to the style called "mediterranean". A very interesting piece. The argentinean and canarian puñales are closely related to this style.
Regards

Gonzalo

Marc · 10th September 2008, 01:22 PM

Indeed, it's Spanish. Probably from the city of Albacete and also probably 19th c. It's in an excellent condition, congratulations

Atlantia · 10th September 2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc

Indeed, it's Spanish. Probably from the city of Albacete and also probably 19th c. It's in an excellent condition, congratulations

Wow! Thanks Marc! Is this style specific to Albacete?
Do you know what they were for? Are they a utility knife or a defensive dagger? Any info very greatfully appreciated.

Regards
Gene

Atlantia · 10th September 2008, 09:47 PM

Now that I know that this is European, could a mod' be kind enough to move it to the new Euro forum?

Marc · 11th September 2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Wow! Thanks Marc! Is this style specific to Albacete?

AFAIK, not specific from it, as such, but at the time Albacete was a major center of production of daggers and knives in Spain, so it's a safe assumption.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Do you know what they were for? Are they a utility knife or a defensive dagger? Any info very greatfully appreciated.

Regarding your other questions, having a fixed blade turned such a knife in something that could be used effectively in a defensive situation, even the legislation of the time reflected this. Besides, the false edge isn't usually sharpened in these knives, though its presence favors the penetration of the point. So, you can say it was both a utility and a defense tool.

Atlantia · 10th September 2008, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzalo G

Yes. It seems to belong to the style called "mediterranean". A very interesting piece. The argentinean and canarian puñales are closely related to this style.
Regards

Gonzalo

Thanks Gonzalo,
I don't think I've had one quite like it before but something similar perhaps.
I will be interested to investigate the similar knives you speak of.
Regards
Gene

9th September 2008, 08:10 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Dagger ID please Hi all, Picked this one up today, think I paid over the odds for it, but it was one of 'those' deals! I know the chap and he's a nice bloke and he got me to drive over with a description that sounded like a pesh-kabz. Yes he remembered it totally differently from the reality as its not been out of the drawer in years etc, etc..... Anyway, it seems fairly familiar,but I can't place it! Help me out peeps! ;-) Thanks Gene

9th September 2008, 08:19 PM	#2
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	It's a Spanish knife from the late 18th-early 19th C. I had one exactly like it a while back. Sold it for a pretty penny. Nice find. Rich

9th September 2008, 08:23 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Oh, brilliant! Thanks Rich.

10th September 2008, 01:22 PM	#5
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	Indeed, it's Spanish. Probably from the city of Albacete and also probably 19th c. It's in an excellent condition, congratulations

10th September 2008, 09:47 PM	#7
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Now that I know that this is European, could a mod' be kind enough to move it to the new Euro forum?