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After much saving and scrimping I have at last acquired what I would call my dream Sword!
Can anyone help me with any info on the maker? |
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My God, this is a beautiful sword! May I ask where you found it?
I looked in my sources, even Bezdek's "German Swords and Swordmakers" and there is no listing of "Peter Knavee," nor is there a "Knavee" family. I am curious to find out more about this. Can you give us some stats, like weight, point of balance, total and blade length? |
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I acquired it recently from a fellow collector of Swords. I believe he bought it at Auction.
The Sword Blade is 84.5cm long, total length 98cm. Its 5.1cm max width. 1.52k in weight and the point of balance is about 7cm up from the Forte. I think the surname is actually KNAVFE Hope this helps. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Moenchengladbach, Germany
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Hi,
could et be "Knauer"? This is a German family name. Greetings, Helge |
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Sorry I can't be of no help in identifying the maker, but nonetheless I had to chime in just to say that is an absolutely example, a classic ribbon-hilted basket hilt... If only there was a drooling smiley to be found, there would be a small puddle of 1's and 0's at the base of my laptop screen right now...
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I must also second that comment...I'd save for 10 years for one of these if I could-
![]() Absolutely fantastic sword and a true piece of history. |
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#7 |
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Hi Jim,
First of all let me wish you a Happy and Prosperous New Year and I hope that a few drams of your favourite whisky, Drambuie if my memory serves, eased the transition from 2013 to 2014. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My Regards, Norman. |
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Thank you so much for that correction on that term which I was using in analogous context, and had recalled incorrectly. I am always grateful for these kinds of details, and even better from a true kinsman. I agree, this is truly a beautiful example of these magnificent swords, and it is always wonderful to see these great threads come back. All the best, Jim |
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Wow! I had forgotten about this beautiful ribbon-hilt! Now that would be the jewel in anyone's collection! I just got done reading Peterson's old tome on weapons in Pre-Colonial America, so it is certainly possible that it could have been crafted here, or at least come over the pond to here! Due to its early dating and style, I would assume it came from the homeland until proven otherwise, though.
A belated Happy New Year to you gents, especially you, Jim! Indeed, William Thack aka Blackbeard should have never sassed a Highlander!! ![]() |
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I have just joined this forum because I saw Templarnight's ribbon hilt last weekend. I have its twin brother or at least a kissin' cousin.
The only significant difference I can see, aside from the decorative piercing is that while his blade has the name Peter Knaupf, mine has the unbiquitous Andria Ferara, along with armourer's marks of an arc with three stars at each end on both sides of the blade. The dimensions are nearly identical. It suggests that these swords, at the least, came out of the same shop. I believe they are late in the ribbon hilt series based on the ring that joins the arms of the guards under the pommel. I have an earlier ribbon hilt in which the joining piece is simply a thin piece of iron. The welding of the plates inside is very well done and all but invisible on the outside. Most of my swords are on a thread on SFI started by Cathey Brimage, who also launched one here. Cathey, Eljay Erickson and I have been posting swords there are the last few months. I saw some beautiful pieces on the thread on this forum, which Cathey was also involved in. Hope we can all share the goodies. |
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Sorry not to have posted this warning sooner.
After studying my sword closely and comparing it with known authentic ribbon hilts I concluded that it was a beautifully made reproduction. I returned it to the dealer who did not dispute my conclusions. I learned very recently that it was sold on to another collector to whom I have explained my reasoning. First, it is simply more than coincidental to find two swords, purportedly made in the 17th Century, with the names of different makers -- one of whom is unknown -- that are identical in every respect. Second, it is also more than coincidental that neither sword shows any marks of use, no dings or dents, which a real ribbon hilt has in abundance. Handling the one sword in comparison with other, authentic, swords offers the "feeling" that it just isn't right. I learned later that my sword came through an English dealer who has a reputation for distributing iffy pieces. In my case at least its purchase was a matter of enthusiasm overcoming good sense because my firm belief now is that both swords were not made in the 1600s but in the late 1900s or early 2000s. |
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