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Hi guys,
Another puzzling thing was this semi-dualled edge badek / badik (was it really a badik, after all?). I thought badek was always a single-edged weapon, but then I might be wrong. The top edge was blunt actually, until it reaches its 3/4 length (from the bottom) then the sharp edge started till the tip. No pamor traced. The hilt and scabbard were Bugis-like, but I really don't know it's rightful origin. Any info / thoughts are welcomed. Thanks |
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Hi Moshah,
I would call it a badik. Here one from my collection with a real double edge, very sharp. Do you have etched it? I've never seen a badik without pamor. Regards, Detlef |
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Hi detlef,
Yes indeed yours was also double-edged. I was in the thinking that mine could be something from the Phillipines, as I never saw anything like this. Now I've seen yours and somewhere back I think Artzi has sold one of the likes (pix). It was etched via the coconut juice way and I've failed to see any traces of pamor there on my piece. |
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Hello Moshah,
I believe your blade was made from wesi/besi malela (a heavily forged steel with often higher carbon content which yields the dark, even stain despite being laminated). Your badik could well be from northern Malaya (not sure though). Regards, Kai |
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From my observation, the besi used was similar to the type that we always see in kerises. Perhaps no nickel contents, hence no pamor. The characteristic of the besi was also akin to some Malay kerises that I have, made me so inclined to say it's a Malay badik. But from my understanding, Malay badiks usually will have a "mar" or "temin" - a round base before the tang (pix) which is not present on the badik of question here. This is why I was not prepare to expect that it was a Malay badik... ![]() |
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Hello Moshah,
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As you know, not that long ago, people used to freely move back and forth between Sumatra and W Malaysia. Regards, Kai |
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Hi Kai, if the blade was made with such besi with higher carbon contain, does it mean it can easily break? I've read somewhere stated that besi melela was actually comes from a sandy grains along the west coast of java. Is that true? if not laminated, means that it was not done like how a keris should be? Thanks for the input, kai. Really appreciate it... ![]() |
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Hello Moshah,
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Regards, Kai Last edited by kai; 6th February 2013 at 08:50 AM. Reason: changing "use" into "abuse" |
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