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Old 30th January 2024, 04:38 AM   #1
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Default European sword? eyelash stamp, victorian copy ????

Not sure about this one, thought it was vintage copy but we'll made, 108cm and well balance, good spring steel blade but thin( africa?) steel. Your thoughts appreciated
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Old 30th January 2024, 07:50 PM   #2
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Without diving deep into literature studies you could try to answer the following question for yourself: This seems like a thrust-centric sword, is the blade suitable for thrusting through f.e. mail or sturdy clothing?

The mark is imitating Styrian ones from the late 17th century.
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Old 31st January 2024, 01:48 AM   #3
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No, it's well made but too much spring to pierce mail, blade and resin/ leather construction reminds me of maasai lionspear/ swords and don't think this is a Victorian copy and not quite the quality I've come across, I'm leaning towards someone with good forging skills copying Austrian/ hungarian sword and markings but I could be completely wrong.
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Old 31st January 2024, 06:25 AM   #4
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Victorian (and many modern) copies tended to be heavier, less flexible than actual period swords. And period swords were mostly hand made, and there was no attempt at perfection, they had cosmetic flaws we do not accept in our 'modern' machine world. They were made to be functional.
There are a few fairly recent videos on YouTube by well known swordsmiths and dealers regarding thrusting thru mail, and the swords were surprisingly flexed. Late period swords were not really made for penetrating armour, but for use against lesser men at arms without steel armour.


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Old 31st January 2024, 08:59 AM   #5
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What material is the pommel and guard made of? Also how is the pommel attached?

My first impression of the eyelash stamp is that it is too clean, too sharp. The authentic ones I usually see aren’t as well defined as this one.
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Old 31st January 2024, 10:06 AM   #6
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Do you guys have a book called ARMI BIANCHE ITALIANE ?



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