Tourist or Real Deal?

kahnjar1 · 24th July 2015, 08:49 PM

These small brass/bronze "Indo/Persian" primer flasks seem relatively common, as they come up in auctions quite often. They have a screw plug at the "fat" end which would suggest that they are in fact made for use. The flask bodies are covered with Arabic script, which is NOT the same on all.
My feeling is that they are made for use, but what is the general feeling from Forum Members please?
Stu

Kubur · 24th July 2015, 09:53 PM

Hi Stu,
I was thinking like you.
They are very common and in good condition.
I don't know if they were used or not, but I'm pretty sure that they are from the beginning of the 20th c. They look similar to some tourist daggers from this period... Rick or Bandook have probably the answer.
Best,
Kubur

ward · 25th July 2015, 12:39 AM

The issue on these items is age 20th century is more appropriate. Flintlocks were still being used thru this time. Tourist stuff has to be somewhat flashy to sell. It does not mean that it is worth much, quality is quality. dreck is dreck.

kahnjar1 · 25th July 2015, 07:45 AM

Hi Ward,
So I take it that in your view these were made to be used, rather than to sell as tourist items, which is really the question I was asking?
I have no doubt that they are not that old, as you say 20th century.
Stu

Kubur · 25th July 2015, 09:41 AM

I changed my mind. I spot one with a date 1866.
They are all from Turkey. Maybe some stuff from regular Ottoman army??
I hope that a member has a proper answer...

BANDOOK · 25th July 2015, 10:00 AM

GREETINGS
THE ONES POSTED HERE LOOK LIKE 50s-60s MADE,SO I WOULD SAY VINTAGE BUT NOT ANTIQUES,TURKEY LIKE INDIA AND MORROCO HAVE LOTS OF REPRODUCTIONS AS TOO MUCH DEMAND FROM THE TOURIST MARKETS/SOUKS .PLEASE CHECK EBAY AND ONE WOULD SEE 1000s OF FAKE INDO-PERSIAN ARMS COMMING OUT OF INDIA,CHEERS

24th July 2015, 08:49 PM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Tourist or Real Deal? These small brass/bronze "Indo/Persian" primer flasks seem relatively common, as they come up in auctions quite often. They have a screw plug at the "fat" end which would suggest that they are in fact made for use. The flask bodies are covered with Arabic script, which is NOT the same on all. My feeling is that they are made for use, but what is the general feeling from Forum Members please? Stu Attached Images

24th July 2015, 09:53 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Stu, I was thinking like you. They are very common and in good condition. I don't know if they were used or not, but I'm pretty sure that they are from the beginning of the 20th c. They look similar to some tourist daggers from this period... Rick or Bandook have probably the answer. Best, Kubur

25th July 2015, 12:39 AM	#3
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	The issue on these items is age 20th century is more appropriate. Flintlocks were still being used thru this time. Tourist stuff has to be somewhat flashy to sell. It does not mean that it is worth much, quality is quality. dreck is dreck.

25th July 2015, 07:45 AM	#4
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Hi Ward, So I take it that in your view these were made to be used, rather than to sell as tourist items, which is really the question I was asking? I have no doubt that they are not that old, as you say 20th century. Stu

25th July 2015, 09:41 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I changed my mind. I spot one with a date 1866. They are all from Turkey. Maybe some stuff from regular Ottoman army?? I hope that a member has a proper answer...

25th July 2015, 10:00 AM	#6
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	GREETINGS THE ONES POSTED HERE LOOK LIKE 50s-60s MADE,SO I WOULD SAY VINTAGE BUT NOT ANTIQUES,TURKEY LIKE INDIA AND MORROCO HAVE LOTS OF REPRODUCTIONS AS TOO MUCH DEMAND FROM THE TOURIST MARKETS/SOUKS .PLEASE CHECK EBAY AND ONE WOULD SEE 1000s OF FAKE INDO-PERSIAN ARMS COMMING OUT OF INDIA,CHEERS