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Old 6th March 2017, 01:20 PM   #1
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This is a buginese sword beautiful PAMOR and antique rare
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Old 6th March 2017, 05:43 PM   #2
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This is a buginese sword beautiful PAMOR and antique rare
Beautiful it is but I doubt it is antique. I believe it is very recent production.

Of course I might be wrong, but again I'm pretty sure it is new... brand new!
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Old 6th March 2017, 06:52 PM   #3
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Beautiful it is but I doubt it is antique. I believe it is very recent production.

Of course I might be wrong, but again I'm pretty sure it is new... brand new!
Dear Mmariuegmioc
Of course this antique!
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Old 6th March 2017, 06:55 PM   #4
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This one is new
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Old 6th March 2017, 07:02 PM   #5
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It's strong Buginese influenced but found mainly on Sumbawa. Don't think that this a new sword, it's cleaned and the blade has received a warangan. Very nice short Sumbawa sword. See here my one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=sumbawa

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Old 6th March 2017, 09:23 PM   #6
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Hello Detlef,

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It's strong Buginese influenced but found mainly on Sumbawa.
Actually, this is indeed an old Gowa/Bone style sword that got in vogue on Sumbawa due to the strong dynastic and cultural influences on the latter island. It is also fairly common for expat communities (and similar cultures/groups) to often keep established patterns longer than the originating culture which tends to evolve new trends and fads...

There are enough old high-end examples known from Sulawesi to establish that this style originated from there; it is also part of regalia on both, originating and dependant kingdoms.

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Old 6th March 2017, 09:43 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=kai]Hello Detlef,

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It's strong Buginese influenced but found mainly on Sumbawa.[/url]
Actually, this is indeed an old Gowa/Bone style sword that got in vogue on Sumbawa due to the strong dynastic and cultural influences on the latter island. It is also fairly common for expat communities (and similar cultures/groups) to often keep established patterns longer than the originating culture which tends to evolve new trends and fads...

There are enough old high-end examples known from Sulawesi to establish that this style originated from here; it is also part of regalia on both, originating and dependant kingdoms.

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Hello Kai,

yes I know about this, have seen old pictures from Gowa/Bone regalia with this swords. But think indeed that the sword in question originated from Sumbawa but who know exactly.

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Old 6th March 2017, 07:12 PM   #8
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Of course I might be wrong, but again I'm pretty sure it is new... brand new!
Sorry Marius,

I am pretty sure you are wrong!
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Old 6th March 2017, 07:15 PM   #9
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Sorry Marius,

I am pretty sure you are wrong!
Ada yang nolongin GW! Wkkwkw
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Old 6th March 2017, 07:18 PM   #10
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Dear sajen

This picture for u ,, my be u know this one
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Old 6th March 2017, 07:26 PM   #11
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Whether I am correct or wrong is less important than the fact they are superb blades. Never disputed that!

Yet, I am still of the oppinion it is a new blade.

Besides... even paranoids have the right of oppinion.

PS: The pamor of the new one is absolutely stunning!
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Old 6th March 2017, 07:44 PM   #12
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This picture for u ,, my be u know this one
Should I? But think indeed to have seen it before.
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Old 6th March 2017, 07:43 PM   #13
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Ada yang nolongin GW! Wkkwkw
For others, La Pagaru says in the heading "akhirnya" mean "finally" and in down "someone helped me". Only to prevent confusion.

Tidak apa apa La Pagaru!
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