Help Identity pistol please

aspalathos · 31st May 2024, 08:05 PM

I need help please ,someone says probably german,other that is english or french

corrado26 · 1st June 2024, 02:51 PM

Most of the fotos are unloadable but what I see looks like a French officers pistol ca. 1800, probably made at St. Etienne/F

aspalathos · 1st June 2024, 03:02 PM

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Fernando K · 2nd June 2024, 12:00 AM

Mmmmm.....it seems doubtful to me. The screw that holds the key is too long, and protrudes from the plate. The upper jaw is square, as if there had not been a copy to copy. The protrusion that stops the upper mandible in the cock's foot is too low. The belly of the climbing shoe is rude......I have never seen these curves in the wood (stock)......

Affectionately

corrado26 · 2nd June 2024, 09:29 AM

I think the whole cock is a replacement

kahnjar1 · 8th June 2024, 05:58 AM

It looks as if the barrel could be demounted, and if so, any proof marks revealed would help in ID of it's origin.
Stu

aspalathos · 23rd June 2024, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

It looks as if the barrel could be demounted, and if so, any proof marks revealed would help in ID of it's origin.
Stu

Hi,Well I didn find much

Raf · 17th June 2024, 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=Fernando K;291370]Mmmmm.....it seems doubtful to me. The screw that holds the key is too long, and protrudes from the plate. The upper jaw is square, as if there had not been a copy to copy. The protrusion that stops the upper mandible in the cock's foot is too low. The belly of the climbing shoe is rude......I have never seen these curves in the wood (stock)......

Agreed. The more you look at the whole thing the weirder it gets. Too many stylistic features that don't really work together. The stock shape seems wrong, the brass colour doesnt appear typical of period brass. The chequering / inlay is inept. My guess is a mid 20 th century reproduction possibly Spanish. A view of the lock internals and the breach plug might give some clues.

31st May 2024, 08:05 PM	#1
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1st June 2024, 02:51 PM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,207	Most of the fotos are unloadable but what I see looks like a French officers pistol ca. 1800, probably made at St. Etienne/F

2nd June 2024, 12:00 AM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Mmmmm.....it seems doubtful to me. The screw that holds the key is too long, and protrudes from the plate. The upper jaw is square, as if there had not been a copy to copy. The protrusion that stops the upper mandible in the cock's foot is too low. The belly of the climbing shoe is rude......I have never seen these curves in the wood (stock)...... Affectionately

2nd June 2024, 09:29 AM	#5
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,207	I think the whole cock is a replacement

8th June 2024, 05:58 AM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,741	It looks as if the barrel could be demounted, and if so, any proof marks revealed would help in ID of it's origin. Stu

17th June 2024, 04:02 PM	#8
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	[QUOTE=Fernando K;291370]Mmmmm.....it seems doubtful to me. The screw that holds the key is too long, and protrudes from the plate. The upper jaw is square, as if there had not been a copy to copy. The protrusion that stops the upper mandible in the cock's foot is too low. The belly of the climbing shoe is rude......I have never seen these curves in the wood (stock)...... Agreed. The more you look at the whole thing the weirder it gets. Too many stylistic features that don't really work together. The stock shape seems wrong, the brass colour doesnt appear typical of period brass. The chequering / inlay is inept. My guess is a mid 20 th century reproduction possibly Spanish. A view of the lock internals and the breach plug might give some clues.