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20th May 2024, 06:42 AM | #1 |
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Dhapurs and their names
How does a dhapur get its name?
Relatedly, is there a relationship between the name of the dhapur and the kerises physical form, or with the tuah of the dhapur? I suspect this might differ on a case-by-case basis, so I'll throw out some examples to get the ball rolling to see if anyone can offer a meaning or reason behind the given name.
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20th May 2024, 11:43 AM | #2 |
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Hi Jagabuwana,
Interesting subject. I’ll play with my limited knowledge. Dhapur Karna Tinanding. Karna Tinanding is an act in Mahabharata story depicting a duel between Karna and Arjuna. Karna was born with golden earrings, hence his name which means ear. Probably that’s why Dhapur Karna Tinanding has twin Kembang Kacang. |
20th May 2024, 01:20 PM | #3 |
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Brojol > lower on one side than on the other side.
Well --- it is, isn't it? its a keris. For me, the real question is who gives/gave a dhapur the name, the maker? the person for whom made? public opinion? We'll never know I guess, but half a dozen dictionaries and a cold, wet winter might produce a lot of possible explanations of names. That then opens up other possibilities:- noble explanations? what dialect? is the name found in Kawi? This is a research project for somebody, maybe another degree in the results. Then we have all the Little Red Herrings. In Old Javanese we have "pasupata", & we also have "pasupati". Pasupati is from the Sanskrit, & it means "lord of creatures" & the name actually refers to Rudra, who later developed into Siwa. However, pasupata has a couple of meanings in Old Javanese, it can refer to a follower of Rudra/Siwa, & it was also the name (in Javanese) of the pashupatastra (astra means "weapon" so> "pashupat" weapon) that Siwa gave to Arjuna. Now, this might be pretty inconvenient if one happens to be a philosopher, because it then causes one to consider the nature of the weapon that was in fact given to Arjuna, a weapon that probably Arjuna never used, perhaps because it was so powerful. Cold, wet, winter. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 20th May 2024 at 02:06 PM. |
3rd June 2024, 01:57 AM | #4 |
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Thank you JustYS and Alan for your thoughtful responses.
As usual I (gratefully) get more than I bargain for. |
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