Watering on a tulwar blade

Jens Nordlunde · 22nd January 2005, 05:49 PM

I find thin kind of watering very nice.

Jeff D · 22nd January 2005, 06:35 PM

A masterpiece Jens. I would love to see the whole talwar.

Jeff

tom hyle · 22nd January 2005, 06:49 PM

yes, please! Don't tease us so! That's the base of the yelman? Note the fine filing marks, which seem cross-hatched at the koftgari, but unidirectional out across the blade?

Jens Nordlunde · 22nd January 2005, 10:07 PM

The whole sword

Ferguson · 23rd January 2005, 12:31 AM

Oh my goodness. Beautiful.

Steve

tom hyle · 23rd January 2005, 01:37 AM

Thanks.

napoleon · 23rd March 2014, 07:26 PM

just wow really?thanks what a fantastic example

Runjeet Singh · 24th March 2014, 11:41 AM

A rare sword as we know from reading the earlier input into this thread, and a thread I have followed and a sword I have admired since joining the forum in 2006.

Charles, you have done a great job in bring artisans together in order to conserve this important sword, and I was happy to have helped you bring it into your collection.

The blade is almost identical, it even has the same cartouche, the inscription on the yelman seems to be slightly different, so an accurate reading of yours Charles would clear that up.

The hilt is of the same slender form, but if what Jens refers to is accurate, (and I have no reason not to doubt it) then the style or decoration is dependant on the customers taste, so it would make complete sense that the decoration would be different!

Well done again Charles!

Regards,
Runjeet.

Jens Nordlunde · 24th March 2014, 06:49 PM

Congratulations Charles

this one is really nice.
Like Runjeet writes these blades are rare, really rare. In the more than forty years I have collected I have seen three of these blades.
The other one I saw long ago, but I still remember it quite well. The blade was the same but without fullers and without any gold inscriptions. The hilt was like yours, with a hand guard ending in a lotus bud, and also decorated in rather thin gold koftgari with flowers.
It is remarkeable how the inscriptions are alike, like made by the same man.
When it comes to the hilts, two men could have chosen the same blade, the same hilts and the same decorations, and a third one could have choosen quite another hilt - or the blade could have been rehilted.
Jens

Jens Nordlunde · 25th March 2014, 06:39 PM

Charles,
What are the proportions of your tulwar? Mine are.
Length: 79 cm
Length of blade: 67 cm
Ricasso: 5.2 cm
Hilt: 16 cm
Disc diameter: 6 cm
Width of quillons: 8.5 cm
Length of langet: 5.4 cm
All the best
Jens

Runjeet Singh · 25th March 2014, 07:27 PM

Comon Charles, answer Jens's question re the proportions - this remind me of long lost siblings being re-united!! Will there be a happy ending?!!

22nd January 2005, 05:49 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Watering on a tulwar blade I find thin kind of watering very nice. Attached Images

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tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	yes, please! Don't tease us so! That's the base of the yelman? Note the fine filing marks, which seem cross-hatched at the koftgari, but unidirectional out across the blade? Last edited by tom hyle; 22nd January 2005 at 06:50 PM. Reason: clarity

22nd January 2005, 10:07 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The whole sword Attached Images

22nd January 2005, 06:35 PM	#2
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	A masterpiece Jens. I would love to see the whole talwar. Jeff

23rd January 2005, 12:31 AM	#5
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Oh my goodness. Beautiful. Steve

23rd January 2005, 01:37 AM	#6
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Thanks.

23rd March 2014, 07:26 PM	#7
napoleon Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 88	just wow really?thanks what a fantastic example

24th March 2014, 11:41 AM	#8
Runjeet Singh Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 150	A rare sword as we know from reading the earlier input into this thread, and a thread I have followed and a sword I have admired since joining the forum in 2006. Charles, you have done a great job in bring artisans together in order to conserve this important sword, and I was happy to have helped you bring it into your collection. The blade is almost identical, it even has the same cartouche, the inscription on the yelman seems to be slightly different, so an accurate reading of yours Charles would clear that up. The hilt is of the same slender form, but if what Jens refers to is accurate, (and I have no reason not to doubt it) then the style or decoration is dependant on the customers taste, so it would make complete sense that the decoration would be different! Well done again Charles! Regards, Runjeet.

24th March 2014, 06:49 PM	#9
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Congratulations Charles this one is really nice. Like Runjeet writes these blades are rare, really rare. In the more than forty years I have collected I have seen three of these blades. The other one I saw long ago, but I still remember it quite well. The blade was the same but without fullers and without any gold inscriptions. The hilt was like yours, with a hand guard ending in a lotus bud, and also decorated in rather thin gold koftgari with flowers. It is remarkeable how the inscriptions are alike, like made by the same man. When it comes to the hilts, two men could have chosen the same blade, the same hilts and the same decorations, and a third one could have choosen quite another hilt - or the blade could have been rehilted. Jens

25th March 2014, 06:39 PM	#10
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Charles, What are the proportions of your tulwar? Mine are. Length: 79 cm Length of blade: 67 cm Ricasso: 5.2 cm Hilt: 16 cm Disc diameter: 6 cm Width of quillons: 8.5 cm Length of langet: 5.4 cm All the best Jens

25th March 2014, 07:27 PM	#11
Runjeet Singh Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 150	Comon Charles, answer Jens's question re the proportions - this remind me of long lost siblings being re-united!! Will there be a happy ending?!!