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Old 16th February 2016, 10:13 PM   #1
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Default Double Barrel Flintlock Holster Pistol c1740

The lock and top barrel on this Double Barrel Flintlock Holster pistol is marked “Wistaller”, and the bottom barrel is marked "a Olmitz". Some maker information from a similarly marked pistol was found in Thomas Delmar's Summer 2008 catalog, but it was not attributed.

Georg Wisthaler (active 1718-50) apprenticed in Vienna and later worked for the Bishop of Olmütz, present day Oloumec, in Moravia.

Can anyone contribute some additional information on this maker?

During the same period there is a maker with a similar name, Johann Georg Wisthaler, noted in Munich which is 380 miles away from Oloumec.

Any comments are welcome.

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Old 17th February 2016, 10:54 AM   #2
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The "Neue Stöckel" writes:
WISTHALER Baden near Vienna erw. 1762. His son Joseph begins his apprenticeship in Vienna

WISTHALER (WISTALER) Franz Xaver, Munic, 1800-1845 Coming from Olmütz(?), Begins his apprenticeship probably 1801 in Vienna. He signs:" Büchsenmachermeister im Königlichen Grenadier-Garde-Regiment".

WISTHALER (WISTALER), Georg, Olmütz, erw. 1718 - ca. 1750. Begins his apprenticeship 1718 at Vienna and works for the archbishop of Olmütz. Famous for his multibarrelled weapens.

WISTHALER Johann Georg is working in Munic 1745-1748

WISTHALER Josef, Baden near Vienna, 1660-80

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The "Neue Stöckel" writes:
WISTHALER Baden near Vienna erw. 1762. His son Joseph begins his apprenticeship in Vienna

WISTHALER (WISTALER) Franz Xaver, Munic, 1800-1845 Coming from Olmütz(?), Begins his apprenticeship probably 1801 in Vienna. He signs:" Büchsenmachermeister im Königlichen Grenadier-Garde-Regiment".

WISTHALER (WISTALER), Georg, Olmütz, erw. 1718 - ca. 1750. Begins his apprenticeship 1718 at Vienna and works for the archbishop of Olmütz. Famous for his multibarrelled weapens.

WISTHALER Johann Georg is working in Munic 1745-1748

WISTHALER Josef, Baden near Vienna, 1660-80

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Thanks so much corrado26. It seems likely I have the right "WISTHALER".
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Old 17th February 2016, 07:42 PM   #4
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If I may, I just would like to thank you Dana for presenting the research you had already begun and that data as well as your thoughts to accompany your query!
It really helps a lot and its great to see teamwork in queries which includes the person placing it. You and Corrado really did this 'textbook'.
Great pistol!!!!
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Oh, i wish i had one of these
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Old 20th February 2016, 01:44 PM   #6
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Oh, i wish i had one of these
Glad to hear that you like it Fernando.

I have another Over-Under Double Barrel Flintlock Pistol with an interesting firing mechanism. Rather than having two locks, one for each barrel, this pistol uses a single lock and two fire pans. Both fire pans would be loaded with priming powder then the top pan would be locked into place above the bottom one. After firing the top barrel shot recocking the pistol would cause the top pan to slide backward making the bottom pan and barrel available to fire.

It has no maker markings, but it may have been made in Germany. Any thoughts on this?

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