New Kris off ebay

mross · 18th February 2021, 10:44 PM

Not going to mention the seller as he is on the forum and can chime in if he wants to. If you saw the listing ya'all know who it is anyway.

I read the description very carefully and looked at the pics even closer. I am a firm believer in buy the sword not the story. However in this case I think the story was spot on, if not a little understated! I do think it is closer to 18th than 19th century. If it is 19th it is very early. It as more in common with my archaic pieces then it has differences. Full disclaimer; I am pretty much a sucker for the archaic ones. When I saw the pics I did think there could be a twist core under there. Upon closer inspection, I don't think so but the laminations are killer.

Gustav · 19th February 2021, 12:07 AM

When I saw it on Ebay, I thought it has some distinct features similar to my Kris here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26349

I would say 3rd quarter of 19th cent.

mross · 19th February 2021, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

When I saw it on Ebay, I thought it has some distinct features similar to my Kris here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26349

I would say 3rd quarter of 19th cent.

How long is your blade? Mine is only 19 inches.

Gustav · 19th February 2021, 03:36 PM

Mine is 3 inches longer.

kai · 19th February 2021, 06:12 PM

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Mine is 3 inches longer.

Stop bragging, Gustav!

Gustav · 19th February 2021, 06:28 PM

(and two Luk more

)

kai · 19th February 2021, 06:37 PM

Hello Mike,

That's a cute little kris!

I don't see any features that would suggest an early origin - there also are some later examples with short blades, even from Mindanao.

From my experience, I'd have placed this at the last quarter of the 19th century (especially based on the angled separation line and the hilt style which also seems to be a later development). The provenance of Gustav's kris may suggest that this style could possibly date a tad earlier; some more examples with reliable provenance would certainly be needed to validate this hypothesis.

To sum things up, I believe that what you might interpret as resembling archaic kris is mainly the result of miniaturization and possibly somewhat lesser craftsmanship.

Regards,
Kai

18th February 2021, 10:44 PM	#1
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	New Kris off ebay Not going to mention the seller as he is on the forum and can chime in if he wants to. If you saw the listing ya'all know who it is anyway. I read the description very carefully and looked at the pics even closer. I am a firm believer in buy the sword not the story. However in this case I think the story was spot on, if not a little understated! I do think it is closer to 18th than 19th century. If it is 19th it is very early. It as more in common with my archaic pieces then it has differences. Full disclaimer; I am pretty much a sucker for the archaic ones. When I saw the pics I did think there could be a twist core under there. Upon closer inspection, I don't think so but the laminations are killer. Attached Images

19th February 2021, 03:36 PM	#4
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Mine is 3 inches longer. Attached Images

19th February 2021, 12:07 AM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	When I saw it on Ebay, I thought it has some distinct features similar to my Kris here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26349 I would say 3rd quarter of 19th cent.

19th February 2021, 06:28 PM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	(and two Luk more )

19th February 2021, 06:37 PM	#7
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Mike, That's a cute little kris! I don't see any features that would suggest an early origin - there also are some later examples with short blades, even from Mindanao. From my experience, I'd have placed this at the last quarter of the 19th century (especially based on the angled separation line and the hilt style which also seems to be a later development). The provenance of Gustav's kris may suggest that this style could possibly date a tad earlier; some more examples with reliable provenance would certainly be needed to validate this hypothesis. To sum things up, I believe that what you might interpret as resembling archaic kris is mainly the result of miniaturization and possibly somewhat lesser craftsmanship. Regards, Kai