A Very Early Wheellock Arquebus, ca. 1530, in the Musée de l'Armée, Paris

Matchlock · 31st December 2013, 08:59 PM

Discussing earliest wheellocks, we may not forget this arquebus in the Musée de l'Armée, Paris. It is French, no doubt, but generally dated 'ca. 1520', which in my eyes is not justified.
The earliest date I would seriously assign to it is 'ca. 1525-35', with a main focus on 'ca. 1530'.
The stock is in all probability limewood, with a lesser possiblity of maple.

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Matchlock · 31st December 2013, 09:04 PM

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Fernando K · 31st December 2013, 11:25 PM

If possible, I would (and other forum members) as cubrecazoleta operation (COVERPAN) and the trigger system. It seems completely strange .....

Affectionately. Fernando K

Matchlock · 1st January 2014, 10:25 AM

Hi Fernando K.,

The very same type of pan covers of the early 1530's ca be found on the Ottheinrich arquebus of 1533, on another in the Royal Armouries Leeds and on a detached lock in the Dresden armory, all ca. 1530-35:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17814

Best,
Michael

Fernando K · 1st January 2014, 11:32 AM

Matchlock Estimate:

I declare, by a principle of intellectual honesty, I'm more confused: the view from inside the key the cubrecazoleta (pan-cover) is not appreciated, nor as the crank wheel you can move, or that another system was applied . Also, I think I see the hole holding the wheel, but the trigger system appears to be independent of the plate (plate) of the key (lock) ....

Affectionately. Fernando K

Matchlock · 1st January 2014, 11:54 AM

Oh yeah, Fernando K.,

I can see what you mean; the constructer of this lock mechanism seems to have chosen his very own special way, as he did with the specially mounted French main spring for which he had to hollow out the stock, and the long dog spring on the outside of the forestock.
The trigger itself, though, as always, is suspended in the stock behind the lock.

Aficionado,
Michael

31st December 2013, 08:59 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Very Early Wheellock Arquebus, ca. 1530, in the Musée de l'Armée, Paris Discussing earliest wheellocks, we may not forget this arquebus in the Musée de l'Armée, Paris. It is French, no doubt, but generally dated 'ca. 1520', which in my eyes is not justified. The earliest date I would seriously assign to it is 'ca. 1525-35', with a main focus on 'ca. 1530'. The stock is in all probability limewood, with a lesser possiblity of maple. m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 1st January 2014 at 10:31 AM.

31st December 2013, 09:04 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The remainder of the images. m Attached Images

31st December 2013, 11:25 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	If possible, I would (and other forum members) as cubrecazoleta operation (COVERPAN) and the trigger system. It seems completely strange ..... Affectionately. Fernando K

1st January 2014, 10:25 AM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Fernando K., The very same type of pan covers of the early 1530's ca be found on the Ottheinrich arquebus of 1533, on another in the Royal Armouries Leeds and on a detached lock in the Dresden armory, all ca. 1530-35: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17814 Best, Michael

1st January 2014, 11:32 AM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Matchlock Estimate: I declare, by a principle of intellectual honesty, I'm more confused: the view from inside the key the cubrecazoleta (pan-cover) is not appreciated, nor as the crank wheel you can move, or that another system was applied . Also, I think I see the hole holding the wheel, but the trigger system appears to be independent of the plate (plate) of the key (lock) .... Affectionately. Fernando K

1st January 2014, 11:54 AM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Oh yeah, Fernando K., I can see what you mean; the constructer of this lock mechanism seems to have chosen his very own special way, as he did with the specially mounted French main spring for which he had to hollow out the stock, and the long dog spring on the outside of the forestock. The trigger itself, though, as always, is suspended in the stock behind the lock. Aficionado, Michael