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doesn't quite know what to call this. ibeam calls it Binalibon. i say it's Talinangon. whatever it is, it's different. the hilt is typical Panay style but in miniature version. even the scabbard looks like a typical binangon style. what's different is the blade, which reminds me of the talibon. pretty neat, actually. OAL is 15.5"
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Spunjer:
Is the blade on this one chisel ground in the usual Visayan fashion? If so, is this not a Western Visayas (Panay, Negros) sword variant? Do we need to invent a new name for it? It is uncommon to see this abbreviated kakatua style pommel on a wide-bellied chopper, but I have seen at least one other example of this combination. Ian. |
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its a sundang...
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ian:
yep, it's chiseled. at first i thought it was jury rigged, but it looks like it hasn't been tampered with... |
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Actually, that's a pretty common blade, Spunger. It has has all the trademarks of an Ilonggo bolo: typical scabbard with leather throatpiece and brass bands, knob hilt pommel, long iron or brass ferrule, chiselled-edge. Even the blade form is common. Sure, you could call it a talibong, but a talibong denotes a blade specifically made for fighting. The blades are usually longer and more slender and a handguard would most likely be present as well. Your example is more of a general purpose bolo that can be used for anything from fighting, cutting up brush, to chopping up the lechon for dinner
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crude??? yes... ugly?? yes... cheap??? you wouldnt begin to understand... worthy??? a "competitor's" talibong snapped in half against it... enjoy!
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zel,
i was inclined to call this piece a binangon or sundang, as themorningstar mentioned; but this piece is more of a knife than anything else. the blade at its widest is 1 and 1/8 inch wide and the base's width closest to the ferrule is only half an inch. again, the blade is only 11 inches long. would this be more of a kutsilyo or lansitas in definition, or would you still consider this as a binangon/sundang? i will try to post a picture of this baby next to my binangon for comparison... the binalibon/talinangon was actually a lighthearted jab to the way this piece was put together. your sanduko definition is definitely an eye opener. that's one term i've never heard until my trip to museo iloilo. thanks. as always, you are the man when it comes to this kinda stuff. |
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here's that little thing compared to my 'everyday chore' binangon and good ol' bathead...
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Hey morningstar! Those are the same bolos that Shelley and the guys picked-up in Hinigaran. Yeah, they came in a variety of blade forms and sure they were sort of crude and ugly, but I wouldn't hesitate grabbing one if I had to cross blades with another. They do the job and they do it well
![]() Spunger, I see what you mean. I didn't realize how small it was, but then again I wouldn't get hung up on what you would call it. Kutsilyo and lansitas would work and be totally acceptable, as well as sundang or sanduko. Again this depends where you are and what dialect you're speaking. Personally, I would just use the term daga...especially if I had a talibong, tenegre, or ginunting in my other hand as my espada ![]() I actually have a little daga very similar to yours, but with the deity hilt and a more bilog type blade. Check out my little daga compared to it's larger espada counterparts. While we're talking about Visayan dagas (or kutsilyos or lansitas), they also come in a variety of forms as well. I might have to post pics of several Visayan dagas I have...you know...to keep my left hand occupied ![]() |
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