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27th June 2007, 08:31 AM
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Dohong on Ebay
just put this on Ebay
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27th June 2007, 09:42 AM
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I bought a Dayak bird that Arjan carved and can attest to his skill at making high quality carvings. The bird was patinated to look old and it does. I am impressed by his skill and attention to detail.
My wife, Anne loves the bird and features it prominently in her "kitchen gallery." He does an excellent job and is very honest in his descriptions and work. I also appreciate him marking the Dohong so no unscrupulous person could buy this and try to re-sell it as an old one. Here is a link to the dohong. http://cgi.ebay.com/Dayak-Borneo-rar...QQcmdZViewItem Last edited by Bill Marsh; 27th June 2007 at 09:52 AM. |
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27th June 2007, 03:38 PM
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IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE BLADE SHAPE RESEMBLES THE TRADITIONAL SPEAR TIPS USED IN THE LANDS OF THE NAGA OF ASSAM AND OTHER AREAS.
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27th June 2007, 04:11 PM
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The dohung looks different from the original
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27th June 2007, 05:14 PM
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as you see there are so much varies of the Dohong...... Arjan. |
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27th June 2007, 06:58 PM
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the first picture that you show is an sadap
the second is an dohung does not look like yours picture the 3 an drawing better follow the pics than the drawings yours is not bad but dohung mostly has an fat handle and more space between blade and handle Ben |
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27th June 2007, 07:26 PM
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The Dohong was most likely the traditional sword/knife before the mandau.
So most Dohongs are from before 1850 and there are not many in museum collections. First this is not proven what you put in your advertisement It was in use with funurals never used as an weapon IT IS AN STORY THAT IT WAS THE NATIONAL WEAPON FROM THE DAYAKS BUT NEVER BEEN PROVEN this can be read page 379 it say s that it is not believeble that is was the national weapon look below the page 379 point 1 it also says that Sal Müller tells that the ivory handle might proof that it is from an different culture and date back to the madjapahit rules over the coast from borneo this can be read in the catalogus van s'rijks ethnographisch museum deel 2 Borneo Brill 1910 page 378 THE FIRST PIC IS NOT AN DOHONG BUT AN OTHER KNIFE THE SECOND PIC IS AN DOHONG THE 3 DRAWING IS ALSO AN DOHONG And look dimension Handle to the blade that is what I mean Ben |
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28th June 2007, 04:53 AM
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I also did my homework. I agree with you that its not proven that the dohong was traditional used as a weapon.In those times there where no photographs made. But we have also the work of Ave ,he stayed a long time among the Ngadjoe in south Borneo and was witness of many Tiwah's. I think you can't just wipe away his knowlegde. I follwed his seminar about Dayak art and culture in 1992. I agree that in much descriptions the dohong is described as ritual dagger. Besides that we also have a marvelous dagger in the hands of a quite warlike culture......imposible to say then that it " never" has been used as a weapon. It comparable as beiing locked up with a beautifull naked woman for 3 days in the toilet and declared afterwards nothing has happened..... The drawing on wich I refer is from the same series as you refer in the tread about the sadop in this forum. The dagger in the first picture is described in the book from Volkenkunde Rotterdam and surely there the word "Duhung" in it! However many Dohongs has more or less the same shape you can't wipe all those dagger away with a different model as " not Dohong". To complete a few dohungs from volkenkunde Leiden. as you see its not always that short thick hilt. |
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