Indian Shamshir-Translation requested

[Tabarzin]

Howdy Folks,

Recently picked up this Indian Shamshir, hoping someone on the forum could help with the inlay inscriptions on the blade. Thanks in advance!

[Gavin Nugent]

Congrats!

I was the underbidder a while back. A real nice piece.

I'll leave the inscriptions to the experts.

Good to see it cleaned up too.

Gav

[AJ1356]

Nice sword, shamshir or whatever it is called in other languages Shamshir in Farsi/Dari literally means sword, so any kind of sword is called a shamshir. This style is usually called Kirj or Kaj, in Afghanistan basically meaning curved. Either way, the blade is Persian, Safavid era (Most likely Shah Sulaiman). I have seen much nicer works of this sword maker being listed at really high prices. Translation for this, the first line is the name of the maker and the rest is a poem in Farsi.
عمل مصری معلم work of Misry Mu'alem (Egyptian Teacher)
the end of the first line is kinda unreadable to me, but I think it is supposed to be خواهی pronounced خاهی so I think that is what it is supposed to be- makes more sense. Also in the second line the second word from last is unreadable to me, it would make sense if there was شوی meaning to become or be.
here is the poem.
بَروزِ رَزم اگر خواهی ---- که بَر دشمَن شوئ غالِب
به تیغِ خود بِکَن نامِ ---- علی ابنِ ابی طالِب
Phonetic English

Ba Rooz e Razm Agar Khaahi ---- Ke Bar Dushman shawi ghaalib
ba taigh e khod bekan Naam e ---- Ali Ibn e Abi Taleb

Trans
On the day of combat if you want ---- to be victorious of the enemy
On your balde engrave the name of ---- Ali son of Abi Taaleb (Abu Taaleb)

yeah I am never this nice

[Dom]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

Translation for this, the first line is the name of the maker and the rest is a poem in Farsi.
عمل مصری معلم work of Misry Mu'alem (Egyptian Teacher)

Hi my Brother Afgani
small precision about your translation ... matter of semantic

1) the sentence as engraved, is grammatically wrong;
should be;
- "amal mu'alem misri"
and not;
- "amal misri mu'alem"

2) your translation of the meaning of "mu'amel",
in this context it's not the appropriated one
- it means "Master" not "Teacher"

so, the sentence in good order, should be read as follow
- AMAL MU'AMEL MISRI" iether "MADE BY MASTER EGYPTIAN"

Thanks for your contribution, and help as translator,
the forum has a "terrific pool" of translators now ...

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Dom

[AJ1356]

The first time I saw that name ( the picture I posted) I thought it read as معلم مصری not مصری معلم but in that blade it has it the later. In Farsi, Mu'alem means teacher, it may mean master in Arabic, but not in Farsi. In Farsi, the word Ustaad is used for master, specially in regards to artisans.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

In Farsi, Mu'alem means teacher, it may mean master in Arabic, but not in Farsi. In Farsi, the word Ustaad is used for master, specially in regards to artisans.

funny, coze in Egypt, I mean, in Arab egyptian, the word
- Mu'alem (masc) -Mu'alema (fem) is used for those have a trade business,
or owner for a shop

the two words (again, Egyptian Arabic) related to "teacher" are
- "ostaz" ... (not far from your "Ustaad")
- "modaret"
I'm sorry, but I haven't an Arabic keyboard,
over than that, my translator, dunno the "farsi", that didn't help

all the best

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Dom

[AJ1356]

another piece by the same sword smith, wrongfully labeled as an Assadullah blade by the seller.