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This small point appears to be made of copper. It was excavated in St. Augustine Florida. I have never seen anything like it, but it doesn't look Indian (Native American) to me. Could it be Spanish? Maybe a bolt for something like a small fowl hunting crossbow?
1.23", 31.242mm .345", 8.763mm .27" dia, 6.858mm dia 1/8oz, 3.5g The photos are copyright (c) 2014 by Dana K. Williams |
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Hi Dana
I take it that you are sure that this bronze piece was excavated in Florida. Judging by its forms and patina, i woud presume it is way (extremely?) older than the Spanish arrival in America. Bolts from the 14-16th century didn't have such smooth (harmoneous) lines and were usualy made of iron ... and would hardly have such fantastic patina. If it weren't for the Florida provenance, i would within my ignorance guess that this would be an object of the bronze age ... you know, the (so often faked) Luristan type of stuff. But i am just playing the smart ![]() . Last edited by fernando; 16th September 2014 at 06:58 PM. |
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There are Indian copper artifacts from North America, but it doesn't resemble any of those that I have found so far. see: http://copperculture.homestead.com/ |
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What this piece seems to resemble most are the 1st-3rd century bronze arrowheads made by the Romans and Greeks.
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Here's a Bronze Age point from Chinese tomb sentinel I picked up in china.
Note the rough similarity to the St. Augustine bronze point. I think a lot of Bronze Age and later bronze points have closely related forms due to parallel development. Similar weapons and utilitarian objects often develop independently but unrelated geographically or culturally. The fact that form follows function will dictate this evolution, not to mention manufacture technique. The more complex an object becomes, the more room for deviation from simple function. An arrow point needs to be simple to mass produce. Mass production dictates uniformity. Once this is determined, a production method of one kind or another is chosen: cast, wrought, knapped, or other. Before the rise of machine assisted production, i.e. tool and die forging, templates and jigs assisting in maintaining uniformity, forging was accomplished by contractors with hammer and anvil either as cottage work or in arsenals. Either way, the skill and abilities of the smith determined loosely the degree of accuracy each finished point had. As a parallel, look at early hand wrought nails. Same idea as far as the numbers required and the method of manufacture. Size and shank diameter, length and type of head are roughly consistent, but if you study a hundred or a thousand, there will be variations across the spectrum of a given type. So if a wrought iron or steel point is of a style generally associated with a time period or geographical location, there will be many slight deviations in form recognized in the study of a hundred, or a thousand points. Knapping flint or chert arrowheads is even further back in the evolution of technology. A Folsom point will look generally like the next one, but slight variations in the position and shape of each flaked facet will bear infinite variation. Casting leaves the least room for variation. A master pattern of wood metal or other material is made. From this pattern single use molds are made, in clay, plaster, sand or other heat resistant workable material. From one individual master pattern thousands of finished points are cast. Each bears the identical form, subtleties and all. One slight, and I do mean slight, variation among many cast and finished points done from the same pattern comes from the hand finishing that each undergoes before mounting. There will always be sprues to remove, flashings to file or stone off, edges to sharpen. Here the craftsman is following the form set in manufacture. The other is caused by slight imperfections where the metal does not fully fill the mold, but not so bad at the point is rejected. The "point" I'm trying to make here is that the location of the find for something as simple as man arrowhead is important if you are certain that the technology matches uniquely one culture that occupied that area. If you have many cultures all sharing reasonably close technological abilities that all crossed a given geographical area, good luck tying a particular point to one or the other group, unless it is found with strong evidence supporting one group or the other. |
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Thanks for your comments Shakethetrees. I know you are right, form follows function. I just don't think there were any natives using bronze in Florida.
A friend of mine speculates that this relic may have traveled here the way many Roman coins have, via ballast stones. There are many stories of such finds, but I haven't found a good article on the subject.... Yet! http://themonticellonews.com/ancient...p11110-115.htm |
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