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Dear Friends!
Some of you have a real great mettalurgical and mettalography knowledge so I hope you'll coment this thread. I just have read an excerpt of new "Guide for collectors" just printed in Poland, with chapter on weapons written by one famous person, whose name I would like to keep in secret for a while (I have my reasons, sorry). In section devoted to Polish sabres the Author wrote something like this (my translation): "Hussars sabre (...) has excellent blade of average curvature, with fullers and often with devotion inscriptions like IEZVS MARIA IOZEF. As a material used for this blades were often horseshoes, which were forged in "natural way" during the horse run". This is new to me! ![]() ![]() Below hussars sabre blade with inscription IEZVS MARIA IOZEF Regards! Last edited by wolviex; 25th January 2007 at 12:41 PM. |
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Interesting information, I never heard a horseshoe for a sword, wouldnt it be too soft? Lets wait and see what Jim has to say about this
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Now, I suppose there could be some sort of parable or fable about old horseshoes being added to the steel in a sort of sympathetic magic, but that's what it sounds like, and old wive's tale. Perhaps a reversal of the old "beat your swords into plowhares" parable, "beat your horsehoes into blades". ![]() Fenris |
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Having said that, I fully agree that the horseshoes to swords thing sounds apocryphal! Paul |
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Hi Michal,
Yes old horseshoes, nails and used iron pieces were mixed with other kinds of iron, when forging blades. I don’t remember where I read it; it could be in Persian Steel by James Allan and Brian Gilmour. But i have never heard about 'natural forging' ![]() Jens |
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I agree with Jens, I also read somewhere that many different types of iron (including horseshoes) was used in swords production , I do not really believe that horse could forge a horseshoe to hussar blade quality ![]() Best Damian |
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Well, I'm not surprise at all, it is obvious of using different iron objects and reforge them into different piece. But the statement written in the book sounds like they used especially and only horseshoes for hussars sabres blades - what imo sounds like some kind of misunderstanding. Anyway I'm waiting for other voices too. Thank you all for your opinions! |
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