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13th September 2022, 12:09 PM | #1 |
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Ming late dynasty Chinese Dao (Saber)
Ming late dynasty Chinese Dao (Saber)
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13th September 2022, 02:01 PM | #2 |
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Following Peter Dekker's article this looks most like a "goose quill saber" with a simplified "goose wing" termination. Hopefully Peter and Phillip will weigh in.
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13th September 2022, 08:27 PM | #3 |
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Seems unusual to see tunkou on one of these, but clearly this is a hybrid as so often the case with these forms. While I am anxious to see the input from Philip and Peter, I wanted to add my own similar example for perspective.
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13th September 2022, 10:28 PM | #4 |
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Hi Antony and others,
I think i know that one... Honestly, it looks like a Yanchidao (goose wing) saber. Potentially, fittings are a bit later from blade. Some excavated swords from that type avec been attributed to 14th (Yuan period). I have discussed that one with Peter and Philip some months or year ago. It could be from late ming/early qing dynasty. At the same period, i had also contacted a chinese author and sword collector that assessed late ming/qing. Still, it could also be a bit later. It's always difficult to know. I think that saying 18th would be a reasonnable guess ? |
14th September 2022, 02:01 AM | #5 | |
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Could be and also I was told that iron fitting is usually earlier than 19th/20th century. This is one of my favorite. Enjoy the photo. |
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20th September 2022, 06:54 AM | #6 |
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Blade shape is usually called fengchidao (phoenix wing saber). The type does indeed date back to the Ming if not earlier, as indicated by depiction in art of the era, and a few surviving specimens. The fittings on this one look like later replacements, Qing for sure, judging from their style, probably around the 18th cent.
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