Riau-Bugis Keris and Hilt?

ganjawulung · 9th October 2011, 10:16 AM

Really want to know, whether these are of Riau-Bugis kerises and hilts. The two hilts are of "gigi duyung" (dugong tusk) with certain sign of (according to one of my Bugis mentor) "temu ure" along the hilts. I can't even explain, what "temu ure" is, and what is the philosophy on the "ure" (or "urat" in Bahasa Indonesia)...

ganjawulung · 9th October 2011, 10:19 AM

Riau-Bugis kerises and hilts, with the warangka...

ganjawulung · 9th October 2011, 10:21 AM

And this is the overall view of the two blades...

GANJAWULUNG

ganjawulung · 9th October 2011, 10:30 AM

I saw quite similar examples on these kerises, when I reread this interesting thread on 2005. Please see example of Nr 15 and 19 pictures of BluErf's kerises... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bugis

Sajen · 9th October 2011, 08:41 PM

Hello Ganja,

this could be Peninsula keris as well, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=peninsula

The "temu ure" are the small black dots along a line which are normally typical for hippo ivory which I think to see at your both hilts as well so I think that it isn't ivory from dugong but from hippo.

Others with more knowledge than I am will be able to tell you more about the origin of this both nice keris. Do they have both a sarung? Can you post pictures when they are inside?

Regards,

Detlef

ganjawulung · 10th October 2011, 02:48 AM

Not changed yet, since acquired couple months ago... The "malela" one, has no warangka. I acquired it, just blade and hilt only...

9th October 2011, 10:16 AM	#1
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Riau-Bugis Keris and Hilt? Really want to know, whether these are of Riau-Bugis kerises and hilts. The two hilts are of "gigi duyung" (dugong tusk) with certain sign of (according to one of my Bugis mentor) "temu ure" along the hilts. I can't even explain, what "temu ure" is, and what is the philosophy on the "ure" (or "urat" in Bahasa Indonesia)... Attached Images

9th October 2011, 10:19 AM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	With Sheath.. Riau-Bugis kerises and hilts, with the warangka... Attached Images

9th October 2011, 10:21 AM	#3
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Overall View of the Two Blades... And this is the overall view of the two blades... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

9th October 2011, 10:30 AM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Similar Examples I saw quite similar examples on these kerises, when I reread this interesting thread on 2005. Please see example of Nr 15 and 19 pictures of BluErf's kerises... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bugis

10th October 2011, 02:48 AM	#6
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Not changed yet, since acquired couple months ago... The "malela" one, has no warangka. I acquired it, just blade and hilt only... Attached Images

9th October 2011, 08:41 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Hello Ganja, this could be Peninsula keris as well, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=peninsula The "temu ure" are the small black dots along a line which are normally typical for hippo ivory which I think to see at your both hilts as well so I think that it isn't ivory from dugong but from hippo. Others with more knowledge than I am will be able to tell you more about the origin of this both nice keris. Do they have both a sarung? Can you post pictures when they are inside? Regards, Detlef