Help with ID

Hammondtx · 19th June 2018, 10:00 PM

Can anyone help with identification of this sword? I have searched the internet and can't find anything with this type hilt. Blade is marked VOC with a M over it and 1776 for the date. Thanks in advance for you help.

Ren Ren · 19th June 2018, 11:37 PM

As the experts say, the letter M means the branch of VOC in Middelburg.

Kmaddock · 19th June 2018, 11:38 PM

VOC is the symbol for the Dutch East Indies company so that is where the blade is from.
This might give you a starting point on the hilt

Maybe the European side of the forum would be the place to post this sword?

Regards

Ken

Battara · 20th June 2018, 12:57 AM

Transferring to the European section.

Rick · 20th June 2018, 01:23 AM

Another entrant for the 'Shaver Cool' style of sabre.

Was it made here (east indies); or there (Europa)?

M ELEY · 20th June 2018, 01:51 AM

Oh Noooo! Don't say those words, Rick!!! 'Shaver Cool!'

I believe the blade is legit: a Dutch East India Co. sword with proper marking and the talismanic numerals. if it were over in the Indies, its possible that the...ahem...later hilt was put on it for the tourists. The hilt does appear to have some aging to it. If it came from Malay or Shri Lanka, it would undoubtedly have some sort of dragon/naga type hilt as this.

Can we get a shot of the capstan/screw on the top pommel and in the dragon's mouth? Perhaps not tourist, but more of a refit??? The side mounted screw from the knuckle bow is remeniscent of the Dutch naval and marinesabal swords ca. 1800.

The numbers might also indicate an important date in the Dutch history. Haven't had time to research it. It could also be talismanic.

Mark

Hammondtx · 20th June 2018, 03:56 AM

Thanks for moving to the correct section. I had no idea where to start.

What is the reference to shaver cool? I'm a novice on this subject, is that code for a replica?

Here are more pictures, it's some sort of bambo or wood made into a rivet inside the dragons mouth.

19th June 2018, 10:00 PM	#1
Hammondtx Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Buffalo, TX Posts: 3	Help with ID Can anyone help with identification of this sword? I have searched the internet and can't find anything with this type hilt. Blade is marked VOC with a M over it and 1776 for the date. Thanks in advance for you help. Attached Images

20th June 2018, 01:51 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,096	Oh Noooo! Don't say those words, Rick!!! 'Shaver Cool!' I believe the blade is legit: a Dutch East India Co. sword with proper marking and the talismanic numerals. if it were over in the Indies, its possible that the...ahem...later hilt was put on it for the tourists. The hilt does appear to have some aging to it. If it came from Malay or Shri Lanka, it would undoubtedly have some sort of dragon/naga type hilt as this. Can we get a shot of the capstan/screw on the top pommel and in the dragon's mouth? Perhaps not tourist, but more of a refit??? The side mounted screw from the knuckle bow is remeniscent of the Dutch naval and marinesabal swords ca. 1800. The numbers might also indicate an important date in the Dutch history. Haven't had time to research it. It could also be talismanic. Mark Last edited by M ELEY; 20th June 2018 at 12:33 PM.

20th June 2018, 03:56 AM	#7
Hammondtx Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Buffalo, TX Posts: 3	Thanks for moving to the correct section. I had no idea where to start. What is the reference to shaver cool? I'm a novice on this subject, is that code for a replica? Here are more pictures, it's some sort of bambo or wood made into a rivet inside the dragons mouth. Attached Images

19th June 2018, 11:37 PM	#2
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 372	As the experts say, the letter M means the branch of VOC in Middelburg.

19th June 2018, 11:38 PM	#3
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	VOC is the symbol for the Dutch East Indies company so that is where the blade is from. This might give you a starting point on the hilt Maybe the European side of the forum would be the place to post this sword? Regards Ken

20th June 2018, 12:57 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Transferring to the European section.

20th June 2018, 01:23 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Another entrant for the 'Shaver Cool' style of sabre. Was it made here (east indies); or there (Europa)?