Giant Koumiya

[Kubur]

Hi,

Any comments about giant koumiya unlike the one sold by Oriental arms?

He said: "The actual use of such big Koumaya dagger is still a mystery: It is definitely old, early 20 C. and not a tourist souvenir. Is it for ceremonial use? or may be an advertisement to a Koumaya maker?? In any case it is an unusual and interesting authentic item."

I agree it's an authentic stuff. Some of them have real good blades others don't, but they are all old. early 20 C & end of 19th.

Best,
Kubur

[Helleri]

Could you better define Giant? I don't know the size of the relatively small one, so I don't know the size of the larger one. Also I was told that large simple butte rings instead of Riveted bails with all the attention the rest of one has = tourist knife. I don't know how true that is though. Because most things in history have been made to varying degrees of quality.

[ariel]

As Lily von Shtupp from "Blazing Saddles" used to say, " What a nice guy...."

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi,

Any comments about giant koumiya unlike the one sold by Oriental arms?

He said: "The actual use of such big Koumaya dagger is still a mystery: It is definitely old, early 20 C. and not a tourist souvenir. Is it for ceremonial use? or may be an advertisement to a Koumaya maker?? In any case it is an unusual and interesting authentic item."

I agree it's an authentic stuff. Some of them have real good blades others don't, but they are all old. early 20 C & end of 19th.

Best,
Kubur

Salaams Kubur see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...roccan+daggers and or type in Moroccan daggers to Forum search. I think it is the "Gendarmes Hat" style. Shown at my post on #6. (Chapeau de Gendarme)
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Kubur see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...roccan+daggers and or type in Moroccan daggers to Forum search. I think it is the "Gendarmes Hat" style. Shown at my post on #6. (Chapeau de Gendarme)
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Salaam Ibrahiim,

Yes they are chapeau de gendarme.
The biggest 60cm and the smalest 40cm.
Shukran for the link!

Kubur

[Kubur]

I will reply to myself... I can't be disapointed.

Here a photo of Stone's glossary with the same huge koummiya, look at the siz of the dharia to compare, impressive...

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

I will reply to myself... I can't be disapointed.

Here a photo of Stone's glossary with the same huge koummiya, look at the siz of the dharia to compare, impressive...

Don't really think you can compare sizes from this illustration. It is a drawing, not a photograph and would not be to scale.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Don't really think you can compare sizes from this illustration. It is a drawing, not a photograph and would not be to scale.

Of course its to scale, its clear! and its a photograph...
Or maybe a drawing after photograph, the book is a mix of photos and drawings.
Do you have it? Have a look...

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Kubur

I will reply to myself... I can't be disapointed.

Here a photo of Stone's glossary with the same huge koummiya, look at the siz of the dharia to compare, impressive...

Salaams Kubur, I think the chart you have supplied from Stone is about sufficient though I have to agree with it being somewhat blurred perhaps because it is a sketchograph ... however, I note the daggers you present are there in the chart ...Possibly at 8 and 3... Can you confirm that...and are they both Hat of the Policeman styles?

I think it would be a good idea if you can to stick up the key to that chart which would serve Library well for those who dont have Stone ... Hats off to that if you can

Note. Perhaps Stone missed the important Talisman 5 geometric decoration at the hilt of the largest in the chart and at #1 ? ; 5 fingers of the Hand of Fatima design.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Helleri]

I took the image into gimp to see if I could squeeze a little better detail out of it.

[harrywagner]

Originally Posted by Kubur

I will reply to myself... I can't be disapointed.

Here a photo of Stone's glossary with the same huge koummiya, look at the siz of the dharia to compare, impressive...

Great looking Koummya. Thanks for sharing. Is this the book that page is from: A Glossary of the Construction, Decoration and Use of Arms and Armor in All Countries and in All Times? Crazy title, but what a great reference page! Is the rest of the book as good?

Harry

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by harrywagner

Great looking Koummya. Thanks for sharing. Is this the book that page is from: A Glossary of the Construction, Decoration and Use of Arms and Armor in All Countries and in All Times? Crazy title, but what a great reference page! Is the rest of the book as good?

Harry

Hi Harry, Yes, and yes the book is worth getting hold of if you can pick it up. A good reference book though unless you know what an item is called it can take time to find it.
Stu .

[archer]

A link to Giant koummya 24 inches OAL. Here is a normal sized heavy all steel one 15 3/4 inches OAL , the blade is chrome plated and it doesn't appear to have been put into use. Windows 10 has complicated photos. I'll try to get it working, It looks to be the same style as others shown. Steve

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by archer

A link to Giant koummya 24 inches OAL. Here is a normal sized heavy all steel one 15 3/4 inches OAL , the blade is chrome plated and it doesn't appear to have been put into use. Windows 10 has complicated photos. I'll try to get it working, It looks to be the same style as others shown. Steve

Hi,

I can't see your pictures...
To wait another big daddy....

Kubur

[Richard G]

No's 23 and 24 from Stone's Glossary, are presumably the "Met. Omani" khanjar posted by Kubur on the "Omani Khanjar (Jambiya) for Comment" thread.
Regards
Richard