KERIS WITH IVORY HILT

carlos · 17th February 2007, 03:52 PM

HELLO!!
THIS IS MY LAST ADQUISITION, A BEAUTIFUL KERIS WITH IVORY HILT. THE SHETH IS INCOMPLETED BUT THE KERIS IS GOOD. I BOUGHT IT TO A SELLER TOLD ME IT WAS A AFRICAN KNIFE

!! AND I PAID 90 DOLLARS

!!
I HOPE YOU ENJOY WITH THE KERIS!!
THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION
CARLOS

David · 17th February 2007, 06:38 PM

Nice catch Carlos. The blade isn't extraordinary, but it is a good solid example of a gonjo iras blade with what is to my eye a rather attractive profile. Shame about the sheath, though it does look like those might actually be silver fittings. It would be impossible to have a top sheath carved for this, though matching and fitting everything might be difficult. But the hilt alone is worth way more than you paid for the whole thing so i would say you did well. Looks Sumatran to me, maybe Minang Kabau based on the hilt form. How long is the blade?

carlos · 17th February 2007, 08:06 PM

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION, I LOVE THE IVORY HILTS, THIS IS THE REASON I´M VERY HAPPY WITH THIS KERIS.
THE BLADE HAS 11.5 INCH.
REGARDS
CARLOS

BluErf · 18th February 2007, 01:27 AM

Hi,

Judging from the blade form and hilt, I would associate it with Lampung, South Sumatra. As I hear from more senior collectors here in Singapore, the hilt has "Mickey Mouse ears"; It is quite a distinctive form. Most Minang Kabau kerises, which I would consider more Central Sumatra, are of the bahari form and seldom ganja iras. Non-bahari Minang kerises tend to look more Bugis than Javanese. South Sumatra kerises tend to have a more Javanese look to it. Like any generalisations, there would be exceptions to these assertions.

A. G. Maisey · 18th February 2007, 02:49 AM

Yeah, I thought it looked a bit South Sumateraish too.

That type of blade seems to be associated with that part of the world more so than with other places.

David · 18th February 2007, 01:43 PM

Yep, i am sure you guys are probably right on this one. At least i was on the right island.

Alam Shah · 23rd February 2007, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

... It would be impossible to have a top sheath carved for this, though matching and fitting everything might be difficult. ... Looks Sumatran to me, maybe Minang Kabau based on the hilt form. How long is the blade?

For the missing crosspiece, it could be re-made. The shaft joint to the crosspiece portion is intact. (PM me if you couldn't get anyone to do it.)

It should look something like this.
(Picture courtesy of VVV).

David · 23rd February 2007, 03:55 AM

Oops! That was a typo on my part. I had meant to write that it would be possible which is why i followed it up with "though matching and fitting everything might be difficult".

Though come to think of it, it really wouldn't be anymore difficult than making a sheath from scratch. Not that it is ever an easy job.

rahman · 26th February 2007, 04:10 AM

Sorry David for not replying earlier.

The sorsoran does have some similarity. Although most baharis tend to be thein and slender, this one has a nice waist (pinggang) that you do find among some baharis.

It was my immediate reaction. I could be wrong, though.

Carlos -- how long is the blade, anyway?

carlos · 26th February 2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rahman

Sorry David for not replying earlier.

The sorsoran does have some similarity. Although most baharis tend to be thein and slender, this one has a nice waist (pinggang) that you do find among some baharis.

It was my immediate reaction. I could be wrong, though.

Carlos -- how long is the blade, anyway?

Hello rahma!!
Is 11.5 inch., if you need more pictures i can make more.
Thanks
Carlos

17th February 2007, 03:52 PM	#1
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	KERIS WITH IVORY HILT HELLO!! THIS IS MY LAST ADQUISITION, A BEAUTIFUL KERIS WITH IVORY HILT. THE SHETH IS INCOMPLETED BUT THE KERIS IS GOOD. I BOUGHT IT TO A SELLER TOLD ME IT WAS A AFRICAN KNIFE !! AND I PAID 90 DOLLARS !! I HOPE YOU ENJOY WITH THE KERIS!! THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION CARLOS Attached Images

17th February 2007, 06:38 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,119	Nice catch Carlos. The blade isn't extraordinary, but it is a good solid example of a gonjo iras blade with what is to my eye a rather attractive profile. Shame about the sheath, though it does look like those might actually be silver fittings. It would be impossible to have a top sheath carved for this, though matching and fitting everything might be difficult. But the hilt alone is worth way more than you paid for the whole thing so i would say you did well. Looks Sumatran to me, maybe Minang Kabau based on the hilt form. How long is the blade? Last edited by David; 17th February 2007 at 08:14 PM.

17th February 2007, 08:06 PM	#3
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	thanks THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION, I LOVE THE IVORY HILTS, THIS IS THE REASON I´M VERY HAPPY WITH THIS KERIS. THE BLADE HAS 11.5 INCH. REGARDS CARLOS

18th February 2007, 01:27 AM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi, Judging from the blade form and hilt, I would associate it with Lampung, South Sumatra. As I hear from more senior collectors here in Singapore, the hilt has "Mickey Mouse ears"; It is quite a distinctive form. Most Minang Kabau kerises, which I would consider more Central Sumatra, are of the bahari form and seldom ganja iras. Non-bahari Minang kerises tend to look more Bugis than Javanese. South Sumatra kerises tend to have a more Javanese look to it. Like any generalisations, there would be exceptions to these assertions.

18th February 2007, 02:49 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,888	Yeah, I thought it looked a bit South Sumateraish too. That type of blade seems to be associated with that part of the world more so than with other places.

18th February 2007, 01:43 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,119	Yep, i am sure you guys are probably right on this one. At least i was on the right island.

23rd February 2007, 03:55 AM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,119	Oops! That was a typo on my part. I had meant to write that it would be possible which is why i followed it up with "though matching and fitting everything might be difficult". Though come to think of it, it really wouldn't be anymore difficult than making a sheath from scratch. Not that it is ever an easy job.

26th February 2007, 04:10 AM	#9
rahman Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 84	Sorry David for not replying earlier. The sorsoran does have some similarity. Although most baharis tend to be thein and slender, this one has a nice waist (pinggang) that you do find among some baharis. It was my immediate reaction. I could be wrong, though. Carlos -- how long is the blade, anyway?