A pair of pocket pistols for comments

[fernando]

I assume this type of pistol is rather common. But it gets more interesting when they are a pair, both in very good condition, with a well designed hammer and a nice grooved brass lid in the caps compartment.
All parts functioning perfectly ... the two step boxlock mechanisms, the cap box lids, the concealed triggers and ... the multi rifled barrels still able to turn off.
No makers or proof marks; only number 3 and 4 matching in each hammer, breech and barrel.
Most possibly neither British nor Liege. I will call them Continental until some member attributes them a more precise origin, something i would appreciate.
The stocks are made in a wood of rather pronounced intrincate effect, even more than in the pictures; may i risk walnut root ? i don't know ...
Caliber 11 m/m. Barrel lentgh 5.5 cms; total length 15 cms. Weight each 195 grams.


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[Fernando K]

namesake

I lean that is French, lack the punch of Liege, and is circa 1860 that the housing is constructed in one piece, with the bedroom, not a false side, and the two copies of box-lock I uploaded the forum.

I refer very similar pair at the site of Udo Lander's these with the punch ELG

Excellent photographs, the only thing missing is the mouth, with multi-grooved and the grooves for screwdriver

Affectionately. Fernando K

[Fernando K]

namesake

Another feature to most of the false side, with the primitive models of box-lock (flint and percussion) is that the trigger is not on half-cock, and recently displayed when the cock comes to full-cock.

In the latest models of box-lock (percussion) meets the trigger two functions, half-cock and full-cock, and lacks an intermediate piece and then the mainspring is double action, because it governs the cock and the trigger. I think this should be the case. The trigger and appears in half-cock, while the cock has the notch security.

Not if I have been clear.

Affectionately. Fernando K

[ulfberth]

Hi Fernando,

to me these are French, I had encountered more of these in the past.
The ones you have are indeed nice with the shell box lock and in perfect condition !

Kind regards

Ulfberth

[fernando]

Originally Posted by ulfberth

Hi Fernando,

to me these are French, I had encountered more of these in the past.
The ones you have are indeed nice with the shell box lock and in perfect condition !

Kind regards

Ulfberth

Thank you Ulfberth .
So French they will be

[Fernando K]

Querido Fernando

La fecha de 1860 (el ultimo periodo de la percusion) la puse por el metodo de construccion. No tienen un falso costado (como en los dos ejemplares de box-lock que subi al foro, de mi propiedad) y en los dos ejemplares de Udo Lander Si te fijas con atencion, al costado izquierdo de la box veras una tenue linea, el limite del falso costado.

Asimismo, en los ultimos ejemplares de box-lock, el disparador ya aparece en media-monta, y el martillo tiene una muesca de seguridad en el diente de media monta y aparece completamente cuando el martillo llega a full-cock; cosa que no sucede en los ejemplares primitivos (chispa y percusion). Si te dijas atentamente en los dos ejemplares que subi al foro, de mi propiedad, hay fotos en que el gallo o martillo esta en media monta, y el disparador permanece oculto

Me llama la atencion la ausencia de muescas pra el destornillador ¿No sera que el destornillador calza en las estrias?

Afectuosamente. Fernando K

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Fernando K

namesake

Another feature to most of the false side, with the primitive models of box-lock (flint and percussion) is that the trigger is not on half-cock, and recently displayed when the cock comes to full-cock.

In the latest models of box-lock (percussion) meets the trigger two functions, half-cock and full-cock, and lacks an intermediate piece and then the mainspring is double action, because it governs the cock and the trigger. I think this should be the case. The trigger and appears in half-cock, while the cock has the notch security.

Not if I have been clear.

Affectionately. Fernando K

Hola Fernando,
This time your translation machine made a text rather difficult to interpreter.
It should be nice if you add to it the original text in spanish; that will enable for a better understanding for some of us ... like me
I confirm these pistols have half cock and full cock positions. Does this mean by itself that the date of these pistols would be around 1860?
I didn't take photos of the mouth because in this case there are no grooves for an opening spanner.