Keris with a „spear-point-blade“

thomas hauschild · 16th August 2020, 08:07 AM

Don‘t know how describe the form of the blade better than „spear-point“. Seems to be a complex forged blade with several fine layers. Total length aprox 50 cm. I like those kind of unusual blades.

Many thanks for your comments.

JustYS · 16th August 2020, 08:33 AM

Based on my limited knowledge:

Dhapur: Karna Tinandhing
Pamor: Dadung Muntir

Since you said the length of the blade is 50 cm then it can be considered as Corok.

Cheers,

Jean · 16th August 2020, 02:01 PM

50 cm is the total length of the kris, not the blade length.

thomas hauschild · 16th August 2020, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

50 cm is the total length of the kris, not the blade length.

Yes

A. G. Maisey · 16th August 2020, 02:11 PM

This word "corok" is a word that seems to have entered the keris lexicon quite recently.

Does anybody know when it started to be used, and by whom?

I have only ever heard it used in the sense of a stick that you use to prod somebody with --- and in one other sense that I would probably get suspended for explaining here.

Does anybody know when some obviously talented individual began to use it associated with the keris?

JustYS · 16th August 2020, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

This word "corok" is a word that seems to have entered the keris lexicon quite recently.

Does anybody know when it started to be used, and by whom?

I have only ever heard it used in the sense of a stick that you use to prod somebody with --- and in one other sense that I would probably get suspended for explaining here.

Does anybody know when some obviously talented individual began to use it associated with the keris?

Hi Alan,

I’ve heard the word Corok from Jakarta Keris dealers, they use word Corok for Keris with blade length > 40cm, and Patrem for Keris with blade length < 30cm.

When they started to use it and who started it, I don’t know.

Cheers,

A. G. Maisey · 16th August 2020, 02:27 PM

Jakarta makes sense.

I doubt I will ever use the word associated with the keris.

Jean · 16th August 2020, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Jakarta makes sense.

I doubt I will ever use the word associated with the keris.

My friend from Solo also uses the term corok for these long Javanese blades, it seems to be common among the kris dealers and collectors there.

16th August 2020, 08:07 AM	#1
thomas hauschild Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 139	Keris with a „spear-point-blade“ Don‘t know how describe the form of the blade better than „spear-point“. Seems to be a complex forged blade with several fine layers. Total length aprox 50 cm. I like those kind of unusual blades. Many thanks for your comments. Attached Images

16th August 2020, 08:33 AM	#2
JustYS Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 138	Based on my limited knowledge: Dhapur: Karna Tinandhing Pamor: Dadung Muntir Since you said the length of the blade is 50 cm then it can be considered as Corok. Cheers,

16th August 2020, 02:01 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	50 cm is the total length of the kris, not the blade length.

16th August 2020, 02:11 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	This word "corok" is a word that seems to have entered the keris lexicon quite recently. Does anybody know when it started to be used, and by whom? I have only ever heard it used in the sense of a stick that you use to prod somebody with --- and in one other sense that I would probably get suspended for explaining here. Does anybody know when some obviously talented individual began to use it associated with the keris?

16th August 2020, 02:27 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	Jakarta makes sense. I doubt I will ever use the word associated with the keris.