A very fine small portable haquebut (Halbhaken), the stock dated 1516 (?)

Matchlock · 24th November 2008, 08:33 PM

Painted on the right side of the down curved buttstock is a coat-of-arms, flanked by a somewhat blurred date, probably 1516, and most probably of Nürnberg make.

It never had a lock.

Preserved at the Kelvingrove Museum, Glasgow, purchased at auction at Christie's, Geneva, 16 April 1977.

Michael

Matchlock · 24th November 2008, 08:35 PM

The date may more probably read 1510 or 1512.

Michael

Matchlock · 24th November 2008, 08:49 PM

At first glance one might tend to read 1610 or 1612 but it should be kept in mind that cyphers like 5 were quite often reversed 500 years ago.

Michael

Matchlock · 25th November 2008, 08:17 PM

Defining 500 year old datings can be very tricky indeed ...

Any suggestions?

Michael

Matchlock · 25th November 2008, 08:21 PM

Alright, o.k.,

I realize what you want to know:

Any dating in between 1510-20 would, in my opinion, be formally correct - so what ...

Michael

Matchlock · 26th November 2008, 04:37 PM

That's what I meant when noting that the spelling of the cyphers 3, 5 and 7 in 500 year old dates can be tricky sometimes.

Michael

24th November 2008, 08:33 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A very fine small portable haquebut (Halbhaken), the stock dated 1516 (?) Painted on the right side of the down curved buttstock is a coat-of-arms, flanked by a somewhat blurred date, probably 1516, and most probably of Nürnberg make. It never had a lock. Preserved at the Kelvingrove Museum, Glasgow, purchased at auction at Christie's, Geneva, 16 April 1977. Michael Attached Images

26th November 2008, 04:37 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Reversed cypher 5 in the date 1504. That's what I meant when noting that the spelling of the cyphers 3, 5 and 7 in 500 year old dates can be tricky sometimes. Michael Attached Images

24th November 2008, 08:35 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The date may more probably read 1510 or 1512. Michael

24th November 2008, 08:49 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	At first glance one might tend to read 1610 or 1612 but it should be kept in mind that cyphers like 5 were quite often reversed 500 years ago. Michael

25th November 2008, 08:17 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Defining 500 year old datings can be very tricky indeed ... Any suggestions? Michael

25th November 2008, 08:21 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Alright, o.k., I realize what you want to know: Any dating in between 1510-20 would, in my opinion, be formally correct - so what ... Michael