Please Help Me to Identify this Trenching Club

[Antique Arsenal]

Hi Everyone,
just recently I bought this item and I think that it is a trenching club of WWI period. At first I thought that it has German origin because of its shape but now I am not sure. On the leather strip fixed to the handle there is a name “EL CID” which is a Spanish national hero who lived in 11th century. That could mean that there was a military formation that had this name or it is a name of the person who owned it. This confused me even more because neither Spain nor Portuguese participated in WWI. As far as I know they remained neutral. I hope you can help me out with this one.

Thanks,
Aleks

[Bryan.H]

I've seen trench clubs with provenance from the Western Front battlefields , now on display in the Australian War Memorial, where the hob-nails of boots have been used for spikes, others wrapped with barb wire, nails and cartridges hammered in to make spikes. Most look crude, but effective bludgeons for trench raids, made in the muddy confines of the trenches. The example you have in the picture may well be authentic, but it looks a bit too neat for a battlefield relic somehow. What are the spikes made of?

interesting topic by the way!

Cheers, Bryan.

[Berkley]

How do the dimensions compare with this current production item, which looks similar to your club?

[Antique Arsenal]

Originally Posted by Berkley

How do the dimensions compare with this current production item, which looks similar to your club?

Hi Berkley,
I am kind of disappointed to see this illustration. I have to admit that it does greatly resemble my club. I will take the measurement as soon as I come back home.
Thanks,
Aleks

[Antique Arsenal]

Originally Posted by Berkley

How do the dimensions compare with this current production item, which looks similar to your club?

Sorry that I am replying only now. I was out of the city for a week. The club itself measures 23”. That is from the bottom of the top spike to the bottom of the handle. Does it necessary mean that the mace is a reproduction?? Also, what do you or anybody else think about the decorations on the handle and the leather strip with “EL CID” wring on it? Could it be an identification of its authenticity??

Thanks,
Aleks

[Antique Arsenal]

Originally Posted by Bryan.H

I've seen trench clubs with provenance from the Western Front battlefields , now on display in the Australian War Memorial, where the hob-nails of boots have been used for spikes, others wrapped with barb wire, nails and cartridges hammered in to make spikes. Most look crude, but effective bludgeons for trench raids, made in the muddy confines of the trenches. The example you have in the picture may well be authentic, but it looks a bit too neat for a battlefield relic somehow. What are the spikes made of?

interesting topic by the way!

Cheers, Bryan.

Hi Bryan,
I did open a discussion called “maces clubs and other” in Ethnographic Arms Forum. I did mention trenching clubs there but nobody gave me any good answers regarding this exqample. Although, one of the members gave a nice illustration several WWI trenching maces and clubs w one of them had very similar spikes on it. Tell you the truth I am not sure what the spikes are made of on my mace.
Thanks,
Aleks

[Antique Arsenal]

Originally Posted by Bryan.H

I've seen trench clubs with provenance from the Western Front battlefields , now on display in the Australian War Memorial, where the hob-nails of boots have been used for spikes, others wrapped with barb wire, nails and cartridges hammered in to make spikes. Most look crude, but effective bludgeons for trench raids, made in the muddy confines of the trenches. The example you have in the picture may well be authentic, but it looks a bit too neat for a battlefield relic somehow. What are the spikes made of?

interesting topic by the way!

Cheers, Bryan.

Bryan I also wanted to note that tranche percussion weapons were not only manufactured in closest settlements and the tranches themselves but also in countries like Grate Brittan Germany. They were actually manufacturing trench clubs and maces in factories. That is why when I have seen the club for the first time I did not think that it is too neat. I will post some some pictures latter on .
Thanks,
Aleks

[stephen wood]

I have seen maces brought back from Spain as souvenirs.

Portugal did take part in WWI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_in_World_War_I

[fernando]

Originally Posted by stephen wood

... Portugal did take part in WWI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_in_World_War_I

Good Stephen,
You were faster than me .
Over a thousand Portuguese died in La Liz, for example.

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[stephen wood]

...bravo.

The Portuguese issue helmet is interesting http://www.cascoscoleccion.com/portugal/por16.htm ... http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=99337

...said, on the one hand to be based upon a private purchase British officers' model (they were made in the UK), on the other to have derived from a medieval type (?) http://reference.findtarget.com/sear...of%20Portugal/

[Antique Arsenal]

Originally Posted by stephen wood

I have seen maces brought back from Spain as souvenirs.

Portugal did take part in WWI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_in_World_War_I

Thank you very much for this note. I should have known better and done a better research.
Thanks,
Aleks

[Antique Arsenal]

Hi everyone I just wanted to post one of the pictures I have of WWI Austrian Club. If you want to I can provide the translation of the text below latter on.
Thanks,
Aleks