Sarajevo knife and fork.

[Tim Simmons]

Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old.

Apparently about 1886 vintage... Jolly nice! See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/180988478752536828/

[gp]

another set :

- knife made from bone ( typical Bosnian from Sarajevo)
- fork made from mountain goat / chamois

remarkable is that it is the first time I ever did see a square handle on a Sarajevo Bosnian knife.

As for diminsions ( all in cm )

total lenght knife 31,7 blade 18,5 handle 13,7 copper connection 3
total lenght fork 31 blade 18 handle 11 copper connection 2

[gp]

Originally Posted by gp

another set :

- knife made from bone ( typical Bosnian from Sarajevo)
- fork made from mountain goat / chamois

remarkable is that it is the first time I ever did see a square handle on a Sarajevo Bosnian knife.

As for diminsions ( all in cm )

total lenght knife 31,7 blade 18,5 handle 13,7 copper connection 3
total lenght fork 31 blade 18 handle 11 copper connection 2

some additional pics on the square handle knife

[gp]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Bought this very nice set of cutlery to go in my camp equipment. The knife looks quite substantial almost a dagger. Just thought they looked good and might be old.

similer set although with a slightly smaller spoon:

total length 11,5 cm
spoon handle; 7,5 cm
spoon part: 4 cm

width :
handle : 0,9 cm
connection handle2spoon: 0,4 cm
spoon widest: 2 cm

[gp]

and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia

Knife 32 cm
Fork 33 cm

[gp]

Originally Posted by gp

and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia

Knife 32 cm
Fork 33 cm

also here some more detailed pics, unfortunately the year on the knife could not be better shown

[gp]

request for advice: I just received this set ( although I knew about the lacking piece of horn on the knife ) was wondering what to do?
Normally from an authentic / original perspective 2 options can be applied:

1. leave as is
2. add a replacement piece in such a way that a clear difference can be seen between original and authentic piece versus addition.

This is done f.i. with historic seals or old books or jewelry.

Henceforth looking forward to your experience and advice being the new kid on the block... THNX a lot

[Tim Simmons]

If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.

[gp]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.

Thnx a lot for the advice !

[gp]

Originally Posted by gp

and a 3rd set from Sarajevo Bosnia

Knife 32 cm
Fork 33 cm

never thought they would come bigger, but just stumbled on this set
knife 39 cm
Fork 35 cm

with 2 sets, at least I can invite Detlef for a BABI PANGANG now :-)))

[gp]

latest set I was happy to find :

knife & fork with a grip / handle I never have seen before
neither bichaqs or other knife / dagger types from Bosnia
yet it has all the characteristic ornaments:the combination of the below 3

- circular / rings with three copper wheel-like pieces in them
- metal, iron rivets on top
- bone grip

need to clean them ( green copper oxidation on the bone) when they arrive.

Any of you seen these grips before ?


BR

Gunar

[Battara]

What is the meaning of the green color in the bone pieces?

[Dmitry]

Originally Posted by Battara

What is the meaning of the green color in the bone pieces?

Just something different, possibly made to imitate the color of a mineral, like malachite.

[gp]

Originally Posted by Battara

What is the meaning of the green color in the bone pieces?

my guess is contamination by the copper rings due to bad storagein a humid place, but I can give a better reply once I have received them and cleaned / restored them.
I have seen it with some bichaqs of my collections before.
The green ones are complete green and do not show this kind of deterioration; they look like the above ones or the attached one
Folks handle swords with care, daggers also but the smaller items get often less care, specially these kind of cutlery.


Please bear with me....and I answer when I'll get them

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by gp

with 2 sets, at least I can invite Detlef for a BABI PANGANG now :-)))

Ini enak sekali!

[gp]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Ini enak sekali!

Selamat makan / enjoy the food mein Freund ! ☼

[gp]

my latest purchase, just received , is this set and is most beautiful and best intact of my collection with regards to the golden decoration and writting being almost untouched.

One question remains: what is written in Arabic writting?

As certainly "Sarajevo" it is not:

- the S is missing
- also the combination of other letters in caligraphic do not make sense
- no similarities with previous or other knives and bichaqs from my collection

or I might be missing something...any advise is more than welcome!