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Old 16th February 2024, 10:26 PM   #1
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Default A collection of French pocket pistols

This is my collection of French pocket pistols.
First pair are by Jean Aubron of Clissons Nantes
Second pair are by Jean LePage
Al others are by Nicholas-Noël Boutet
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Old 19th February 2024, 03:33 AM   #2
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Those of us who live in this part of the world do not have access to see these wonders. We are very grateful to you

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Hi Fernando, we know each other from other forums?


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What a great collection and hats off to your Photography,

I myself collect Irish manufactured Flintlock and percussion Pistols and they are just not of the same standard of workmanship at all, yours are just Beautiful

Well done on getting such great items,

Regards and welcome to the forum

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Impressive examples; impressive pictures ..
What type of 'sparkers' are those in the LePage pair; not flint ? ...
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My name is Fernando Keilty. I live in Argentina

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What type of 'sparkers' are those in the LePage pair; not flint ? ...
They are machine-cut flints Fernando
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What a great collection and hats off to your Photography,

I myself collect Irish manufactured Flintlock and percussion Pistols and they are just not of the same standard of workmanship at all, yours are just Beautiful

Well done on getting such great items,

Regards and welcome to the forum

Ken
Thank you Ken, would it be fair to say that generally speaking, British and Irish pistols pistols were more about function than form?

My little works-of-art lean more towards Lady Ga-Ga, whereas the British/Irish a little more Audrey Hepburn.

Here are a few from my collection, now living with other collectors.
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Old 25th February 2024, 06:58 AM   #9
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This is my collection of French pocket pistols.
First pair are by Jean Aubron of Clissons Nantes
Second pair are by Jean LePage
Al others are by Nicholas-Noël Boutet
I was unsure as to whether this unmarked boxed set I have at the shop were English or French but seeing you box I'm 109% sure there French.
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Old 25th February 2024, 08:19 AM   #10
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In most cases it is quite easy to distinguish English from French boxlock pistols. French pistols almost always have a slot in the hammer body into which the slide safety engages and the stock is attached by a pin below the lock cover. English pistols also generally have proof and inspection marks, which is not the case with French variants - although fake stamps can occur here.
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I was unsure as to whether this unmarked boxed set I have at the shop were English or French but seeing you box I'm 109% sure there French.
British cased pistols are very rarely "French fitted".

My guess would be Belgian.
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... My guess would be Belgian.
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Hello French pistol lovers.
Now that I have your attention, I have a question for you:
does anyone have information about Jean Challeir maker of this hunting pistol (see attached).
I know he/they made arms for aristocrats Count de Clermont, Duke de Bourbon and Prince de Conde; and also that he was made a master in 1758 and operated from Rue Dauphine.
I never see French pistols for sale or auction here in the UK and I've seen no information about Challier other than what I have detailed.
The pistol is in perfect condition and perfect working order; it has a 22cm long barrel with a 15cm(approx.) bore.
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Old 16th March 2024, 02:13 PM   #14
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Thankfully we now have some very impressive pictures of some very impressive pistols.
I particularly like box-lock actions as well as Queen Anne barrels, and here we have both. Thank-you folks, it is much appreciated.
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