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Whoever wants to part with his money needs to look no further than here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 This one has very nice Persian blade and modern Syrian everything else. The blade is $750, the rest ($18,000) is Damascus municipal tax and VAT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 the signature of Assad Ullah MUST have looked just like that! And this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 was already sold at least once and we have discussed it already: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Who bid on this sword 33 times? Why was it offered again if it was already sold? I have my explanations, but you may just add to the list... |
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Ariel, are you suggesting that the stones in that first sword aren't reall ROBIES!
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Robb-eries, more likely
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Well , does anyone think the blades are old ?
So these are all old blades remounted recently ? The sin of omission ? |
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Rick,
Were you on O.J.'s defence team? ![]() ![]() "If the blade doesn't fit, you... still acquit!" |
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Point out for me and "The Lurkers" ![]() ![]() Honest ! ![]() |
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Ariel, You've made a nice point, and it's hard to disagree with the fact that the seller is asking above the norm. However, I think the Assad Allah stamps are authentic (the gold stamp is obviuosly new). It's a nice blade, and with the hilt - would $750 be an extreme, but the other way around? ![]() |
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Why shouldnt a beautiful wootz blade, like the ones seen here, cost as much as that, whilst you have many plain Japanese "superior" katana's, which cost at least twice more?
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M.C. This is exactly my point. $750 for a blade like this would be a "bargain". Now, $18K is a lot, but it's not a "robbery" as previously stated by others (and I am sure humorously as well). In reality, even in Syria a sword like this will have a similar price tag, but could be bought for half of that.
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The $755/$18,000 ratio was humorous.
No doubt in my mind that the blades are real and very good, especially the one with gold inlay and a signature. I doubt very much it is a real AssadUllah's signature purely on statistical grounds: he must have made ,- what?- 100? 200?- swords in his lifetime, but thousands of swordmakers put his name on their swords. If his signature is real, and it requires careful evaluation that cannot be done by us, screen gazers, then this sword should be valued way above $18,000. If not, it should be viewed as yet another very good Persian blade and bring what the market will bear. However, my point is that both swords were grossly misrepresented. We all would agree that the fittings are modern. Well, even that is not a sin. But to claim that " all is original" is blatantly not true. This is a "restored" sword and should have been presented as such. The circumstances of the repeated "sale" of the sword with the plainer blade are intriguing. What "men with no names" bid on it? Who "wins" it ? Why is it appearing again and again at no reserve, reaching high prices and then being re-listed? All together makes me wonder about the whole operation and the authenticity of other items as well. Buying from that seller is out of the question for me (even if I could spend $18,755 ![]() |
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I just saw a real AL blade (with old AL name stamp as a person, not a school, just like in the Fiegel catalogue) just for $4K. BUT how do you tell who put the stamp on ![]() |
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