Balinese/Lombok Keris for comments

Athanase · 24th February 2019, 05:44 PM

Hello,

Here is my only Keris with a painted scabbard.
The old blade presents a very original pamor, even if it has largely disappeared.
The scabbard is made of a light painted wood except on the back of the Gandar.
I have the impression that it should originally be covered with a pendok.

Jean · 24th February 2019, 06:28 PM

Nice old kris, congratulations!
The blade is very short as compared to the scabbard and has a worn leaf pamor (Blarak Ngirid or similar?). I am curious to know the opinions from the members about its origin (Bali/ Lombok or Java?)
Regards

David · 24th February 2019, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

I am curious to know the opinions from the members about its origin (Bali/ Lombok or Java?)

Jean, i am inclined towards Bali/Lombok and probably Lombok specifically.

Marcokeris · 24th February 2019, 08:33 PM

A keris with a soul and the dress too ...nice @@

Athanase · 24th February 2019, 09:48 PM

The blade length is 30cm, sorry for forgetting.

David · 25th February 2019, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Athanase

The blade length is 30cm, sorry for forgetting.

Yes, mine is a similar length. Definitely short for what we have come to expect from Bali blades.
Here is another similar dress combo of sunggingan sheath and Tapukan hilt, though the blade seems a more standard size.

David · 24th February 2019, 06:39 PM

An interesting keris Athanase. Can you tell us how long the blade is as it looks shorter than the norm for Bali blades? I also have a similar keris in that it is Bali/Lombok with old sunggingan (painted sheath) and the blade is particularly short for a Bali keris though the sarong is normal size just like this one seems to be. I agree that this, just like my own, once had a form of pendok, the Balinese type that covers just the back and sides and leaves the front open to expose the wood.
Mine also has a Tapukan style hilt like yours with a hair wrapping and has red paint on the wood as well to match the painted sheath.
My feeling is that these shorter keris are in normal large size Bali sheaths to accommodate the normal method of wearing the keris. I'm not sure about the significance of the shorter blades. They do not seem like patrems, but there must be some significance to the shorter lengths i would imagine. It does seem the the larger lengths on Bali keris is more of a later development though, so maybe these are older blades being fitted for the normal customs of wear over time.
I am afraid that i do not have too may photos of mine currently, but here are a couple of shots i have for comparison.

24th February 2019, 05:44 PM	#1
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	Balinese/Lombok Keris for comments Hello, Here is my only Keris with a painted scabbard. The old blade presents a very original pamor, even if it has largely disappeared. The scabbard is made of a light painted wood except on the back of the Gandar. I have the impression that it should originally be covered with a pendok. Attached Images

24th February 2019, 06:39 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,119	An interesting keris Athanase. Can you tell us how long the blade is as it looks shorter than the norm for Bali blades? I also have a similar keris in that it is Bali/Lombok with old sunggingan (painted sheath) and the blade is particularly short for a Bali keris though the sarong is normal size just like this one seems to be. I agree that this, just like my own, once had a form of pendok, the Balinese type that covers just the back and sides and leaves the front open to expose the wood. Mine also has a Tapukan style hilt like yours with a hair wrapping and has red paint on the wood as well to match the painted sheath. My feeling is that these shorter keris are in normal large size Bali sheaths to accommodate the normal method of wearing the keris. I'm not sure about the significance of the shorter blades. They do not seem like patrems, but there must be some significance to the shorter lengths i would imagine. It does seem the the larger lengths on Bali keris is more of a later development though, so maybe these are older blades being fitted for the normal customs of wear over time. I am afraid that i do not have too may photos of mine currently, but here are a couple of shots i have for comparison. Attached Images Last edited by David; 25th February 2019 at 03:37 PM. Reason: corrected spelling for search purpose

24th February 2019, 06:28 PM	#2
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Nice old kris, congratulations! The blade is very short as compared to the scabbard and has a worn leaf pamor (Blarak Ngirid or similar?). I am curious to know the opinions from the members about its origin (Bali/ Lombok or Java?) Regards

24th February 2019, 08:33 PM	#4
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	A keris with a soul and the dress too ...nice @@

24th February 2019, 09:48 PM	#5
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	The blade length is 30cm, sorry for forgetting.