Junggayan Kris

Spunjer · 27th July 2005, 12:06 AM

wow! i wonder how much this kris went for:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

was keeping an eye on this, till i got home and found out the seller ended the listing

nechesh · 27th July 2005, 12:49 AM

Something doesn't look right to me. This ensemble is very awkward looking. The hilt seems WAAAY to large for this blade. The pics are so bad that you really can't tell what you are looking at. Personally, i would stay away from it.

Ian · 27th July 2005, 12:50 AM

Hi Spunjer

That hilt is nice but not great IMO. Overall, this one does not seem to be of very high quality to warrant such a flamboyant hilt. You may have saved yourself an expensive purchase. Perhaps one of our fellow Forumites purchased it and will post better pictures.

Ian.

Spunjer · 27th July 2005, 03:43 AM

nechesh, now that you mentioned it, it does kinda look big, doesn't it? i was just reading the "questions from other members" and he stated that the blade is 18.5". i dunno; perhaps a junggayan for a prince?

i'm with you ian, i hope the buyer will post better pics. what kinda hilt do you think it is? it looks like it's made out of kamagong...

nechesh · 27th July 2005, 03:54 AM

What i was trying to say i guess is that to me this looks like a composite piece. I don't feel like this hilt is original to the blade, just slapped together to encourage sale. I could be wrong, but as i said, the pics are just too bad to tell anything for sure.

Bill · 27th July 2005, 05:56 AM

The pics are really hard to tell, my guess is that it is Tausug-mid to late 19thC. I wonder if the hilt is horn, maybe oiled? Short blade with junggayan hilt makes it look dispropotioned. If it is an older blade it seems to have better than usual file work. The hilt doesn't really show much wear, except the wrap in one place, from rubbing on something while stored?

Spunjer · 27th July 2005, 01:47 PM

seller said he erroneously listed the item (huh?). he did say the offer pass the 1000 dollar mark. prolly just trying to get a feel on how much he can get for it. appraisal, ebay style...

bill,
i was checking out the blade as well. the separation line on the gangya appears to be straight across, and basing on cato's book that would be, ah, old...

Ian · 27th July 2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

what kinda hilt do you think it is? it looks like it's made out of kamagong...

Hi Ron:

I think wood rather than horn, but hard to say from the pictures. That would be a large piece of horn. A dark wood, like kumagong, would be my guess. Seems to have some age, judging from the pictures.

Ian.

27th July 2005, 12:06 AM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Junggayan Kris wow! i wonder how much this kris went for: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 was keeping an eye on this, till i got home and found out the seller ended the listing

27th July 2005, 12:49 AM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Something doesn't look right to me. This ensemble is very awkward looking. The hilt seems WAAAY to large for this blade. The pics are so bad that you really can't tell what you are looking at. Personally, i would stay away from it.

27th July 2005, 12:50 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	Hi Spunjer That hilt is nice but not great IMO. Overall, this one does not seem to be of very high quality to warrant such a flamboyant hilt. You may have saved yourself an expensive purchase. Perhaps one of our fellow Forumites purchased it and will post better pictures. Ian.

27th July 2005, 03:43 AM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	nechesh, now that you mentioned it, it does kinda look big, doesn't it? i was just reading the "questions from other members" and he stated that the blade is 18.5". i dunno; perhaps a junggayan for a prince? i'm with you ian, i hope the buyer will post better pics. what kinda hilt do you think it is? it looks like it's made out of kamagong...

27th July 2005, 03:54 AM	#5
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	What i was trying to say i guess is that to me this looks like a composite piece. I don't feel like this hilt is original to the blade, just slapped together to encourage sale. I could be wrong, but as i said, the pics are just too bad to tell anything for sure.

27th July 2005, 05:56 AM	#6
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	The pics are really hard to tell, my guess is that it is Tausug-mid to late 19thC. I wonder if the hilt is horn, maybe oiled? Short blade with junggayan hilt makes it look dispropotioned. If it is an older blade it seems to have better than usual file work. The hilt doesn't really show much wear, except the wrap in one place, from rubbing on something while stored?

27th July 2005, 01:47 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	seller said he erroneously listed the item (huh?). he did say the offer pass the 1000 dollar mark. prolly just trying to get a feel on how much he can get for it. appraisal, ebay style... bill, i was checking out the blade as well. the separation line on the gangya appears to be straight across, and basing on cato's book that would be, ah, old...