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10th July 2009, 03:04 PM
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Eastern Java / Madura kris - Empu Tandju Bari?
I am looking for more info on this keris. It has very distinct greneng.
Based on this greneng I have heard two stories - unfortunately very different ones.... Story one was - this is very typical for early Sumenep kerisses Story two was - this is very typical - signature like for an Empu called Tandju Bari - supposedly early 19th century eastern Java. This keris is one of my personal favorites in my small collection - would like to hear more opinions! And just for fun a picture of some other kerisses from the same region! All favorites of sorts 1 favorite sheath - very nice floral decoration on the silver coloured metal 2 one of my favorite blades as discussed above 3 one of my favorite blades (raja abela raja pamor) and handles - extremely finely carved floral donoriko 4 favorite madura total package of sheath/handle/blade/mendak Last edited by erikscollectables; 10th July 2009 at 03:21 PM. |
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10th July 2009, 03:19 PM
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Looks like a lovely keris Erik. Unfortunately i cannot solve your mystery. I would recommend however that you post more photos of this keris that include an overall view as well as details.
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10th July 2009, 03:21 PM
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Hi Eric,
sorry with your specific question I can't help you. But interesting collection of East Javanese/Madura keris you have there. I don't know if you have followed this threat: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10412 When I look to your sandang walikat sheat from white metal, it looks like silver. You have tested it? sajen |
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10th July 2009, 03:27 PM
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Yes I followed it and I think it is closer to the metal Alan mentioned as mamas - I did not test it as you did but just from the smell on my hands I suspect nickel silver...
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10th July 2009, 03:34 PM
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and the full blade
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15th July 2009, 05:45 PM
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No ideas about the background of this blade?
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16th July 2009, 02:15 AM
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In my opinion this is an old Madura blade.
I have taken the liberty of putting this blade into an orientation that permits me to form an opinion. Note the way the gandik tends to lean towards the centre of the blade; this is in most cases a characteristic of old Madura blades. Combined with the forward lean of the blade,and the type of pamor that has been used, as well as the form of the greneng, I would be comfortable with a classification of old Madura. |
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16th July 2009, 04:00 AM
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the odo-odo runs from the sor-soran to the pucukan ( the tip of the keris). the pamor on its edge seem floating run along with the luks and bordering the sogokan. a few days ago I saw a madura keris with 7 luks which also has thick blade, thick pamor and has odo-odo on it. We can see the tippical style of the gandik, the kembang kacang and hoe the first luk run from the gandik toward the middle of the keris.I manage to take the photograph before it has the warangan. here it is. the blade has 37,5 cm lenght Last edited by ferrylaki; 16th July 2009 at 04:44 AM. |
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16th July 2009, 04:28 AM
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Erik, i really like this one. Just beautiful!
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