North African dagger for identification

Sajen · 8th September 2019, 04:57 PM

Hello members,

I've recently purchased a North African dagger, it remember slightly to the Algerian bou saadi or khodmi daggers but there are also differences. Could it be a Moroccan genoui? But the ones I've seen look also different. So what it is?
It's 11,75" long with a 6,5" blade.

Thank you in advance,
Detlef

Athanase · 8th September 2019, 05:49 PM

For me is an algerian Bou Saadi. The genoui blades are longer and have a more symmetrical shape.

Kubur · 8th September 2019, 06:02 PM

I agree its from Algeria but not Bou saidi but from Iflissen, a Kabyle tribe.
Please look at the tribal designs on your blade they are very close to the flyssa swords. They also have simple blond horn grips.
Overall your knife is from the so-called Bousaidi style and definitively Algerian.

Sajen · 8th September 2019, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

I agree its from Algeria but not Bou saidi but from Iflissen, a Kabyle tribe.
Please look at the tribal designs on your blade they are very close to the flyssa swords. They also have simple blond horn grips.
Overall your knife is from the so-called Bousaidi style and definitively Algerian.

Thank you very much Kubur!

Do you have an age guess?

Regards,
Detlef

kronckew · 8th September 2019, 06:03 PM

Very khodmi-ish, tho the blade shape is less utility than Vendetta stylus style. Some Iflyssan saw a Corsican knife on line and made one in Bou-saadi.

Sajen · 8th September 2019, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

Very khodmi-ish, tho the blade shape is less utility than Vendetta stylus style. Some Iflyssan saw a Corsican knife on line and made one in Bou-saadi.

I've had very similar thoughts!

Regards,
Detlef

ariel · 8th September 2019, 06:58 PM

Genoui is just a koummya with a straight blade.
Yours is a Khodmi.

Sajen · 8th September 2019, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Genoui is just a koummya with a straight blade.
Yours is a Khodmi.

Thank you Ariel!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 8th September 2019, 06:06 PM

Hello Séverin,

Thank you for comment!

My first thought as well but the blade look somewhat different and the usual seen wire winding at the joint from handle and blade isn't present at this piece. Please compare with two khodmi from my collection.

8th September 2019, 04:57 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	North African dagger for identification Hello members, I've recently purchased a North African dagger, it remember slightly to the Algerian bou saadi or khodmi daggers but there are also differences. Could it be a Moroccan genoui? But the ones I've seen look also different. So what it is? It's 11,75" long with a 6,5" blade. Thank you in advance, Detlef Attached Images

8th September 2019, 06:03 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,181	Very khodmi-ish, tho the blade shape is less utility than Vendetta stylus style. Some Iflyssan saw a Corsican knife on line and made one in Bou-saadi. Attached Images

8th September 2019, 06:06 PM	#9
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Hello Séverin, Thank you for comment! My first thought as well but the blade look somewhat different and the usual seen wire winding at the joint from handle and blade isn't present at this piece. Please compare with two khodmi from my collection. Attached Images

8th September 2019, 05:49 PM	#2
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	For me is an algerian Bou Saadi. The genoui blades are longer and have a more symmetrical shape.

8th September 2019, 06:02 PM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I agree its from Algeria but not Bou saidi but from Iflissen, a Kabyle tribe. Please look at the tribal designs on your blade they are very close to the flyssa swords. They also have simple blond horn grips. Overall your knife is from the so-called Bousaidi style and definitively Algerian.

8th September 2019, 06:58 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Genoui is just a koummya with a straight blade. Yours is a Khodmi.