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18th February 2007, 05:37 PM | #1 |
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Moro or Kalimantan ?
Hi all,
This piece comes from a private Dutch family; The weapon was confiscated by the Japanese during the Sumatra occupation in WWII. I need Your opinion about its origin. Moro or Kalimantan ? |
20th February 2007, 01:18 AM | #2 |
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I would lean more toward Kalimantan, especially based on the blade fullers, the "trunk" area, and the chiseling at the base of the blade.
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20th February 2007, 10:10 PM | #3 |
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Hello Paolo,
I remember that one - nice catch! Are there any indications that the elephant's trunk broke off? Regards, Kai |
21st February 2007, 01:26 AM | #4 |
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You know, Kai, that is a good question - missed that one.
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21st February 2007, 12:43 PM | #5 |
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Hi Kai,
To me the elephant's trunk seems intact. Regards Paolo |
21st February 2007, 02:27 PM | #6 |
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The wild swords from Borneo
I have noticed that quite often swords that don’t look like "they should" per default gets labelled Borneo. On this forum it has happened several times to especially odd-looking Kampilan and Kris.
Alan Maisey once told me that he has experienced the same regarding unusual-looking Keris. The difference is that the Malays in coastal south Borneo actually produced Keris. But not with such a great variation of strange styles as sometimes is suggested. As far as I have seen, and read, nobody has actually been able to prove that there really exists a special "Borneo look" to f.i. the Kris and the Kampilan? None of them are indigenous Borneo weapons and were used by the immigrated, non-Dayak, Malay or Moro tribes. I have tried to find proof in old sources of Kris being produced in Borneo. But so far I have only found out that they were imported from mostly the Sulu Sultanate. If somebody knows a good source as proof that this isn't the cause I would be happy if you could share it? Michael |
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