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Old 12th May 2016, 07:43 AM   #1
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The Royal Armouries images are back online, here are some links. As with the Met's collection, the Royal Armouries have some amazing items, huge amounts of armor and weapons, and just like the Met, many of their items have still not been photographed, others are so badly photographed that the images are not much use, and there are the usual description mistakes, you would think that such a prestigious institution would get that part right at least.

Persia https://collections.royalarmouries.o...sort=relevance

Turkey https://collections.royalarmouries.o...sort=relevance

India https://collections.royalarmouries.o...sort=relevance

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Dagger (khanjar) (1700-1799)
with a three lobed pommel.

Place: Persia
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Hi Strech
You are amazing to find pictures!
Very useful and first mistake they did it's a tiger dagger from Northern India.
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Hi Strech
You are amazing to find pictures!
Very useful and first mistake they did it's a tiger dagger from Northern India.
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Commonly known as an Indian tiger tooth jambiya but for some reason they seem to have labeled almost all of their jambiya and khanjar as khanjar.

Here is another very weird thing they have done with several images, they surround the item being photographed with pieces of black paper? This is an Ottoman kilij, but they have labeled it as a
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Sword (kilic) (1700-1799) kilic Persian blade European mounts 19th.century
you can see how it looks on their site and after I edited both images extensively, I just do not see any "European mounts" though and no evidence that I can see which would make the blade "Persian". Further down they describe the blade this way
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the blade of the sword is single edge, curved widening slightly and becoming double edged near the point in the turkish manner.
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Old 12th May 2016, 10:39 AM   #4
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Oh i can tell you why they did these mistakes.
First the decoration is ottoman baroque, clearly with European influences, but it's not European. Second for a lot of people all wootz blade is Persian.
It could be...
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Oh i can tell you why they did these mistakes.
First the decoration is ottoman baroque, clearly with European influences, but it's not European. Second for a lot of people all wootz blade is Persian.
It could be...
But this is the Royal Armouries, they have a lot of people with experience there, they never mention "Ottoman" either. Here is another one,
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Sabre and scabbard (1615-1635) Mameluke-hilted sabre and scabbard Place: Turkey
I think if I described my kilij as a "Mameluk hilted sabre" I might get some laughs.
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They do have some nice weapons and armor though. Here is another kilij, this one clearly has a Persian blade
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Sword (kilic) (1772) By Ismail son of Asad Allah Isfahani. Place: Turkey
....at least be consistant!!
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