IM BAAAACK! and mystery knife!

Aurangzeb · 11th July 2009, 03:33 AM

Hello all!

Im back after an unwantedly long absence. But now im back and intend to stay around this time! Ok, this lil guys been lurking in my collection for a while and I still have no clue what it is. It reminds me of a Balkan/Bosnian Bichaq a bit....especially the furrule. But then looking more the blade is more curved than any other bichaq I've seen. Not to mention the stag handle being odd to say the least.....strangely the handle is comfortable with several of the bumps fitting nicely between the fingers. The stag reminds me of various german knives....but the blade dont strike me as very German. Hopefully someone will know what i have because i defiantly dont!

Mark (Aurangzeb)

Rick · 11th July 2009, 03:52 AM

Hi Mark,
Welcome back !

Looks almost like a Bird or Trout knife to me ..

About the right size .

M ELEY · 11th July 2009, 03:53 AM

Hmmm...looks like it could be part of a hunting trouse perhaps. It has the same side-item style, size, construction with antler, etc.

Perhaps that's why you thought Germanic at first? You are right about the blade resembling a bichaq/kard. Did Eastern Europe have trouses as well? Very nice piece. Is the blade silvered?

Aurangzeb · 11th July 2009, 04:16 AM

Hi M Eley,

I think the blade is chromed....it certainly is an odd bugger isnt it lol. I forgot to mention the chromed blade somehow

I wonder if it is somehkind of eastern european hunting knife....

P.S. the blade is single edged with a false edge on the spine

Rick · 11th July 2009, 04:26 AM

IMO, chrome = non-functional .

M ELEY · 11th July 2009, 05:34 AM

Chrome=nonfunctional. Depends on period. I would agree that modern-day items with chroming are typically tourist, low-grade items, but the process of nickoling, which resembles chroming, has been around since the 1860's. I've had a Scottish baskethilt from the Crimean War with said nickoling on it.
Rick, I agree that it does have the cutting edge in a place that would make it a good gutting knife, like your trout piece. This also makes me wonder if it is an article from a trouse. The last time we had this debate, the ol' cheese/ fruit knife discussion came about, but i feel with the stag hilt and blade shape, it could be a working blade for the hunt.

Mark E

Aurangzeb · 11th July 2009, 05:56 AM

hi all,
Is there a way to tell if it was nickled or chromed? I dont think its to recent....my personal feeling is 1950's at the latest. Its a solid piece. I wonder if it could be part of one of those german hunting sword sets.....i have seen some of those with accomanying knives. the mystery deepens eh? lol THE GAMES AFOOT!

Mark...

p.s i dont know if it helps but the furrel seems to be german silver. it doesnt have that blueish hue of real silver. and the blade is razor sharp.

pps. take a look at the last 2 pieces on the page..... http://www.germaniainternational.com/hunting4.html i think this is the trouse of which you speak? and the handle on the last one is much like mine

11th July 2009, 03:33 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	IM BAAAACK! and mystery knife! Hello all! Im back after an unwantedly long absence. But now im back and intend to stay around this time! Ok, this lil guys been lurking in my collection for a while and I still have no clue what it is. It reminds me of a Balkan/Bosnian Bichaq a bit....especially the furrule. But then looking more the blade is more curved than any other bichaq I've seen. Not to mention the stag handle being odd to say the least.....strangely the handle is comfortable with several of the bumps fitting nicely between the fingers. The stag reminds me of various german knives....but the blade dont strike me as very German. Hopefully someone will know what i have because i defiantly dont! Mark (Aurangzeb) Attached Images

11th July 2009, 03:52 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Hi Mark, Welcome back ! Looks almost like a Bird or Trout knife to me .. About the right size . Attached Images

11th July 2009, 05:56 AM	#7
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	hi all, Is there a way to tell if it was nickled or chromed? I dont think its to recent....my personal feeling is 1950's at the latest. Its a solid piece. I wonder if it could be part of one of those german hunting sword sets.....i have seen some of those with accomanying knives. the mystery deepens eh? lol THE GAMES AFOOT! Mark... p.s i dont know if it helps but the furrel seems to be german silver. it doesnt have that blueish hue of real silver. and the blade is razor sharp. pps. take a look at the last 2 pieces on the page..... http://www.germaniainternational.com/hunting4.html i think this is the trouse of which you speak? and the handle on the last one is much like mine Last edited by Aurangzeb; 11th July 2009 at 06:47 AM.

11th July 2009, 03:53 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,095	Hmmm...looks like it could be part of a hunting trouse perhaps. It has the same side-item style, size, construction with antler, etc. Perhaps that's why you thought Germanic at first? You are right about the blade resembling a bichaq/kard. Did Eastern Europe have trouses as well? Very nice piece. Is the blade silvered?

11th July 2009, 04:16 AM	#4
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi M Eley, I think the blade is chromed....it certainly is an odd bugger isnt it lol. I forgot to mention the chromed blade somehow I wonder if it is somehkind of eastern european hunting knife.... P.S. the blade is single edged with a false edge on the spine

11th July 2009, 04:26 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	IMO, chrome = non-functional .

11th July 2009, 05:34 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,095	Chrome=nonfunctional. Depends on period. I would agree that modern-day items with chroming are typically tourist, low-grade items, but the process of nickoling, which resembles chroming, has been around since the 1860's. I've had a Scottish baskethilt from the Crimean War with said nickoling on it. Rick, I agree that it does have the cutting edge in a place that would make it a good gutting knife, like your trout piece. This also makes me wonder if it is an article from a trouse. The last time we had this debate, the ol' cheese/ fruit knife discussion came about, but i feel with the stag hilt and blade shape, it could be a working blade for the hunt. Mark E