Nice miquelet Gun for ID

Cerjak · 30th June 2012, 05:36 PM

Hi Everbody
This is some pics froma nice gun but the stock had been brocken .
Wondering if with this damage it still good to be in a collection .
The barrel is so heavy and I supose that many of them was broken because of the weight .
Any comment on it will be welcome.

Regards

Cerjak

Battara · 30th June 2012, 06:11 PM

Nice piece. Love the twist core barrel.

Norman McCormick · 30th June 2012, 07:49 PM

Hi Cerjak,
A Caucasian Miquelet rifle, not that thick on the ground so despite condition, which could be repaired much better, could be worth adding to your collection. I suspect the galloping woodworm may have more to do with the break in the stock than a weighty barrel and the woodworm is the one thing than would make me cautious about adding this rifle to my collection. I have seen furniture with less wormholes that looked ok on the outside but were bereft of any substance inside. I have attached a few photos of mine for comparison although it is of a plainer type.
My Regards,
Norman.

Cerjak · 30th June 2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Cerjak,
A Caucasian Miquelet rifle, not that thick on the ground so despite condition, which could be repaired much better, could be worth adding to your collection. I suspect the galloping woodworm may have more to do with the break in the stock than a weighty barrel and the woodworm is the one thing than would make me cautious about adding this rifle to my collection. I have seen furniture with less wormholes that looked ok on the outside but were bereft of any substance inside. I have attached a few photos of mine for comparison although it is of a plainer type.
My Regards,
Norman.

Norman,

Your gun seems to be in perfect condition,It is a long time I try to find one but those guns become so expensive so I had accept a gun in this condition because is still nice to see and was enable to find one in raisonable price but if one day I have the luck to find one in perfect condition I will not miss it.
Those gun are so nice and more and more collector are looking to buy those weapon so I had prefer to bought now affraid that one day the price become to high.

Regards

Cerjak

Norman McCormick · 30th June 2012, 09:33 PM

Hi Cerjack,
My rifle, unfortunately, is not in perfect condition, it is missing the front barrel band and the ramrod shaft has been replaced at some time but apart from that it is pretty good. If the woodworm on yours has been treated correctly it should give you no more problems but I think in time the repairs to the stock could be done better and the wormholes hidden with a good furniture restorers wax. I agree it is a form of rifle that is difficult to come by without paying a lot and you are lucky to get one at a reasonable price. It is a nice and unusual piece with a lovely barrel, thank you for posting it. If you use the search for "Miquelet" you will get more detailed photos of my example and a couple of period photos of these rifles.
My Regards,
Norman.

rickystl · 2nd July 2012, 07:34 PM

Hi Cerjak. Nice looking Caucasian rifle. Maybe a bit of Persian influence on the lock. Is the barrel rifled or smoothbore?
Agree with Norman about the wormholes. Have to be careful. But, as Norman says the break in the stock can be repaired better at a later date. The color and grain of the wood on this piece - as well as the barrel - are very attractive.
I've been looking for one of these Caucasian long arms myself for quite a while. And your right, the prices for Causasian weapons - especially the guns - seems to be going through the roof, especially the last 6-7 years. The long arms are more difficult to locate than the pistols. But even the pistols - at least hear in the States - are bringing large price tags

I still think it's a nice piece and would not mind having it myself. Still looking

Thanks for posting. Rick.

TVV · 30th June 2012, 07:55 PM

Lovely gun! I guess it is from Persia or the Caucasus with this stock.
Teodor

30th June 2012, 05:36 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Nice miquelet Gun for ID Hi Everbody This is some pics froma nice gun but the stock had been brocken . Wondering if with this damage it still good to be in a collection . The barrel is so heavy and I supose that many of them was broken because of the weight . Any comment on it will be welcome. Regards Cerjak Attached Images

30th June 2012, 07:49 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hi Cerjak, A Caucasian Miquelet rifle, not that thick on the ground so despite condition, which could be repaired much better, could be worth adding to your collection. I suspect the galloping woodworm may have more to do with the break in the stock than a weighty barrel and the woodworm is the one thing than would make me cautious about adding this rifle to my collection. I have seen furniture with less wormholes that looked ok on the outside but were bereft of any substance inside. I have attached a few photos of mine for comparison although it is of a plainer type. My Regards, Norman. Attached Images

30th June 2012, 09:33 PM	#5
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hi Cerjack, My rifle, unfortunately, is not in perfect condition, it is missing the front barrel band and the ramrod shaft has been replaced at some time but apart from that it is pretty good. If the woodworm on yours has been treated correctly it should give you no more problems but I think in time the repairs to the stock could be done better and the wormholes hidden with a good furniture restorers wax. I agree it is a form of rifle that is difficult to come by without paying a lot and you are lucky to get one at a reasonable price. It is a nice and unusual piece with a lovely barrel, thank you for posting it. If you use the search for "Miquelet" you will get more detailed photos of my example and a couple of period photos of these rifles. My Regards, Norman. Last edited by Norman McCormick; 30th June 2012 at 11:24 PM.

30th June 2012, 06:11 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Nice piece. Love the twist core barrel.

2nd July 2012, 07:34 PM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Hi Cerjak. Nice looking Caucasian rifle. Maybe a bit of Persian influence on the lock. Is the barrel rifled or smoothbore? Agree with Norman about the wormholes. Have to be careful. But, as Norman says the break in the stock can be repaired better at a later date. The color and grain of the wood on this piece - as well as the barrel - are very attractive. I've been looking for one of these Caucasian long arms myself for quite a while. And your right, the prices for Causasian weapons - especially the guns - seems to be going through the roof, especially the last 6-7 years. The long arms are more difficult to locate than the pistols. But even the pistols - at least hear in the States - are bringing large price tags I still think it's a nice piece and would not mind having it myself. Still looking Thanks for posting. Rick.

30th June 2012, 07:55 PM	#7
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,620	Lovely gun! I guess it is from Persia or the Caucasus with this stock. Teodor