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I have had personally a very much lifelong fascination with these typically short, heavy bladed swords of Spanish colonial America and Mexico, which began in my youth in Southern California. I had acquired one of these swords, but quite frankly knew little about it and traded it away. Some years later I found the book "Spanish Military Weapons in Colonial America 1700-1821" (Sidney Brinckerhoff & Pierce Chamberlain, 1972) and saw the swords resembling the one I had. My regret at having lost that amazing example began my quest to find others and learn more on these fascinating swords of the Spanish in the early days of California and Mexico.
Over the years I indeed acquired more examples, and though there was very little material beyond that in the book by Brinckerhoff & Chamberlain, my research discovered a number of obscure articles, Woodward (1946), Adams (1985) and Hanson (1978). It was not until the advent of the computer that new horizons opened in research, and I found this forum then begun by Lee Jones. With that it was amazing that he too had a deep interest in these swords, and the article he wrote on them was truly an inspiration, and the research continued more tenaciously than ever. Earlier this year I had the opportunity to compile these years of research into an article, "The Espada Ancha or Machete of Northern Mexico Frontiers and the Spanish Southwest from the 18th through 19th Centuries". In this I describe the origins of the espada ancha, as well as the fact that these were never really called 'espada ancha' but actually termed 'machete' in common parlance. In the article I use examples from my own collection as well as from Lee Jones' along with the illustrations from other sources. Most remarkable is the frontispiece of a vaquero c. 1820-30 created by David Rickman, a Delaware based artist and historian well known for his work in many books and publications which include some of the Osprey series. In his illustration he used one of my examples as the 'espada ancha' strapped under the saddle and his left leg, as many of these larger examples were carried. The article is published in the "Svenska Vapenhistoriska Sallskapet" yearbook of the Swedish Arms Society, XXXVIII, the centennial celebration of the Society. It is the oldest arms society in Europe, where I have proudly been a member for over 20 years, and Staffan Kinman, author of many arms references, is the director. It was he who gave me this opportunity to present this work, and I am sincerely grateful. I am placing details on acquiring this article, which remains in English in the book, which is primarily in Swedish with English captioning and summaries. In hopes this article might promote more interest in these weapons, I am hoping others out there with examples might bring them in for discussion. While I have tried to be comprehensive in this coverage on the history of these espada anchas, there is so much more yet to be learned as always, and hopefully this will carry that forward. Last edited by Jim McDougall; 15th November 2023 at 03:59 PM. |
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Hello Jim. I got my copy of this journal and I'm completely blown away! This always was one of your lifetime interests and you really batted it out of the park. Your summation of Spanish colonial weapons is more thorough than most sources, many of them included in this study along with your own research. I particularly like how you incorporate the evolution of the 'espada' from its early form up until the late 19th century. I also was impressed with the examples from your personal collection presented to puncuate your facts (I saw our fellow Forumite, Lee, leant some of his excellent examples as well).
I have always felt that these Spanish colonial types might have been used at sea, as you point out succintly. That example from the Atocha wreck is impressive. These short chopping swords do closely resemble the hangers and cutlasses of yore. This article is indeed a crowning achievement to your life's work. Now if you decide to write a paper or book on pirates weapons, I know this guy who's got some examples... ![]() ![]() |
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Thank you so much Capn! Though an apparently seldom traveled field of study and collecting, the history is very important, so glad I had the opportunity to do this.
With the book on pirate weapons.......YOU are the one who should be writing it! AYE! ![]() |
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The espada ancha is probably one of the most under researched sword types in the collecting world, and surprisingly ubiquitous, yet virtually going unnoticed. There has been little published on them, the first known reference being "Swords of California and Mexico in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries" by Arthur Woodward in 1946.
In 1972 "Spanish Military Weapons in Colonial America 1700-1821" by Sidney Brinckerhoff & Pierce Chamberlain , included them in the outstanding reference which has become the standard reference on Spanish colonial arms. Two brief articles by J.Hanson, and Bill Adams came later, but nothing else until Lee Jones published his concise and most informative article here, now in the forum archives. I have been intrigued by these unique swords of the frontiers of New Spain and American Southwest virtually my entire life, growing up in Southern California. My hope was to do a comprehensive study on these compiling research and collecting which has covered well over five decades, and to augment the few but valuable articles noted. While this was published by the Swedish Arms Society at the Livrustkammeren in Stockholm, in thier Centennial Yearbook, which is of course in Swedish, Staffan Kinman, the director, kindly presented the entire article in English. The work continues, and I recently found a shellguard example (attached) which is yet to arrive. As noted earlier by Mark Eley (again my sincere thanks to him for his response) these had a close connection to the 'cutlass', from which they evolved as discussed in the article. Presently the entire article will hopefully join those held in our archives so those interested might be able to read through it. ...this is pending. I look forward to knowing of anyone else with interest in these Spanish colonial swords, and comments and examples. Last edited by Jim McDougall; 27th April 2024 at 04:53 AM. |
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Well done Sir. We travel on parallel paths. Keep up the good work.
I wonder if this curiosity of mine fits anywhere in your world; it is certainly an oddity with more relations in the naval world, but still not certain. |
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"You will recall this example,an English or French hanger cut down into a dirk." (Jim)
Yes, indeed Jim, and your 1785 cutlass. |
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Indulge me... who can forget this?
Sorry Jim, I've hijacked your thread. |
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Confederate Soldier with Repurposed Sword.
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Actually its good to see life on this thread after it has lain in state since December!
With the Bowies, its important to note that the familiar large clipped point types were made that way, and I personally am unaware of any sword blade which might serve to that profile. However, the contemporary large frontier knife known as an 'Arkansas toothpick' typically had a more even dagger type blade, and likely predated the 'Bowie'. The history of these knife forms is heavily clouded with 'lore' and it seems the term Arkansas toothpick and Bowie were often interchanged in many cases in 19th c. The Arkansas toothpick would seem more potentially suitable for sword blade repurpose. The so called Confederate Bowie had a knuckleguard in most cases, which was why espada anchas were often taken for them. Ironically one of the most prolific supply centers for Bowie knifes was Sheffield, England! The cutlass arrived today, and it has crowned GR on blade (Gilkerson, p.88) but hilted with Spanish cockle shell guard of espada ancha. It appears to be indeed a cutlass but of the 'Spanish Main' of the early 19th century in Caribbean 'South Seas'. As these Caribbean colonies were using many English (or Solingen produced versions) in these times, this falls neatly into that regional part of the espada ancha spectrum. |
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HERE IS THE FULL ARTICLE: Courtesy of Staffan Kinman, Director, Swedish Arms Society, Livrustkammeren, Stockholm, 2023.
http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/...or Machete.pdf Last edited by Lee; 28th April 2024 at 07:42 PM. |
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