Pair of knives

[blue lander]

The seller thinks they're Turkish but that doesn't seem right. They look more South East Asian to me, perhaps Thailand? Philippines?

[VANDOO]

JUST A GUESS BUT THEY STRIKE ME AS BEING FROM SOMEWHERE AROUND CHINA AND RUSSIA WITH THE DESIGN OF THE KNIFE BEING CLOSER TO THE CHINESE FORM. THE INFLUENCE OF CHINA IS VERY WIDE IN THE REGION.

[blue lander]

Thanks. I would have never considered a Chinese origin. I thought the blades were vaguely e-nep looking.

[Andrew]

These are Thai. Recently made. Similar knives (of typically better quality) are made in Aranyik.

[carlos]

I had one like this, a present from a friend that visited Thailand
carlos

[ausjulius]

chinese mong (h'mong... why hwy is there a h,, nobody probnounces this "h" in any languages and they are called mong... if your french please tell me why!! )

form thailand have mong people form china they make these knives with the multiple fullers, mong in lao for example dont..

[ausjulius]

Originally Posted by Andrew

These are Thai. Recently made. Similar knives (of typically better quality) are made in Aranyik.

hi actually they dont make any mong or meo knive sin aranyik maybe some wholesalers in the village may have some eneps form north thailand or something some time. but they never stock any non thai stuff.

you can maybe find stuff like these on the thai knife fourms or gun forums some time...

about the chinese influence.. yes its 100% chinese influence.. and in fact chinese them selves historically used such a blade shape, considering meo and mong and many other asian tribal people came from central east china and spread out in the last 1000nd years or so im sure there was a lot of exchanges in knife making..
these chinese influenced blades show up with mong and meo from china and you can find them with very long blades ive seem some in chinese forums with blades more like chinses sabres!...
the fact that older immigrant groups in this area of asia of mong and meo dont really make their blades with fulling or with pin inlay like these, so i can speculate that either it is a style that some specific tribes of meo made or its just that they recently .. in the last 50 years adopted some chinese styles.. or can be another reason.. maybe mong and meo made these styles in their homelands in wht is now china and the others changed their styles when they arrived in new lands and these new arrivals kept the blade decorating styles..

[blue lander]

The rivets used in the sheath don't look like they could be more than ~50 years old so they must be pretty modern . Post WW2 at the very least.

The seller is in France if that helps narrow down the time frame. Perhaps its from the era of their colonial involvement over there.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by ausjulius

hi actually they dont make any mong or meo knive sin aranyik maybe some wholesalers in the village may have some eneps form north thailand or something some time. but they never stock any non thai stuff.

you can maybe find stuff like these on the thai knife fourms or gun forums some time...

about the chinese influence.. yes its 100% chinese influence.. and in fact chinese them selves historically used such a blade shape, considering meo and mong and many other asian tribal people came from central east china and spread out in the last 1000nd years or so im sure there was a lot of exchanges in knife making..
these chinese influenced blades show up with mong and meo from china and you can find them with very long blades ive seem some in chinese forums with blades more like chinses sabres!...
the fact that older immigrant groups in this area of asia of mong and meo dont really make their blades with fulling or with pin inlay like these, so i can speculate that either it is a style that some specific tribes of meo made or its just that they recently .. in the last 50 years adopted some chinese styles.. or can be another reason.. maybe mong and meo made these styles in their homelands in wht is now china and the others changed their styles when they arrived in new lands and these new arrivals kept the blade decorating styles..

Great information, thanks!