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Someone, Colin I think, stated he wished there were more posts on clubs. I agree! I thought it would be fun to post a couple of unusual examples from time to time and let everyone have a guess. In some cases, I found a reference that I think ID’s it and in some cases I haven’t a clue.
Here is the first example. Quite long at 39” when measured in a straight line. This one I think I have found an ID but let’s see who can get it right! |
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The shape is a bit like a club I had fròm Nuie Island and also a club from Vanuatu, but the handle end is a bit odd for those lands. I might just gamble that it is European? Some sword clubs like this have been shown here from Greece.
I have done a little more research and I might decide to change my mind and think this is South American as well. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 27th May 2018 at 02:31 PM. |
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It'd be easier if the whole club were in a photo...
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Thanks for the feedback so far and yes my photography skills leave a bit to be desired.
Tim, When I first seen this club it was listed as Native American but I thought initially it might be Nuie Island as well but a few months later I was flipping through a reference book and think I have found a match. Will post this soon. |
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Hopefully I was able to capture the entire club in this picture.
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In Partingtons book I found a very similar example listed as Australian. The handle end in the line drawing has the same shape and the curvature is the same. Based on this line drawing my vote is for Australian. Look at number 3.
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While the profile is similar to the Australian club in the drawing, the 3D shape doesn't look very Australian to me.
From the caption in Partington, club #3 looks like a boomerang-club to me, a flattened club that can be thrown as a boomerang (non-returning, of course). These are often called "lil-lil", and that should find some examples when used as a search term. One from the British Museum: http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...13469&partId=1 (photos attached). There are Australian sword-clubs with long round handles, but the caption "used as swords and as missiles" suggests to me it isn't one of these. One example of a long-handled sword-club: https://australianmuseum.net.au/image/e076955-club |
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I tend to agree not Australia. I wonder if it is some kind of throwing device.? The groove used as a track to launch a projectile of some form.
Perhaps it is a native American hunting stick? Maybe from arrid or desert regions? |
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It looks similar to a carp fishing bait throwing stick. Perhaps a rabbit or bird hunting stick that throws a pebble.
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Yes, unfortunately the example in the book does not give us a feel for the thickness of the club. The book example is 35 1/2” which seems long for most boomerang or throwing clubs and after an exhaustive search in Partingtons, Oldmans and Webster’s this is the only example I can find that has the same shape grip. Plus mine is comparable length. |
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http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...86825&partId=1 http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...01810&partId=1 http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...89074&partId=1 http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...13776&partId=1 http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc...07195&partId=1 |
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An intriguing piece. The grooved part seems too long and near the grip to be for propulsion ? Its a bit like a Solomon Islands dance club, and the groove was made to reduce weight. Rennell Island ?? Don't see it being Australian Aboriginal.
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Well, I suspect the groove is near the grip so you can hold the bullet in place until you get it into the right position to throw. Looks two-handed.
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