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23rd March 2019, 03:27 PM | #1 |
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Small Padsumbalin Panabas
Hello dear forum members,
have won recently a small padsumbalin panabas, it's just 55 cm (21.65") long. I very much doubt that this piece is an agricultural piece. And I never before have seen a small panabas with padsumbalin blade and I think that it is the first one ever shown at this place. Any comments on this piece? Regards, Detlef Last edited by Robert; 27th March 2019 at 09:57 PM. |
24th March 2019, 07:09 AM | #2 | |
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Nice piece. However I'd like to differ and point out that- consistent with the size and form of traditional panabas being forged nowadays in Maguindanao- this seems to be an agricultural piece. The present-day panabas still bears resemblance to the old ones purportedly used in the battlefield or (I think more likely) for executions; but like many other Mindanao weapons, it's on a smaller scale so that it could better serve as an agricultural tool. Your piece may be the forerunner of the miniaturized versions of panabas today. |
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24th March 2019, 10:26 AM | #3 | |
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First, there is no need to call me Sir, Detlef is enough! I've doubt an agricultural purpose of this piece since there is a engraving near the spine of the blade which would be somewhat unusual for a agricultural tool but like always I could be wrong. It's the first small panabas with a padsumbalin blade I've seen but maybe there are others in the collections of our members!? Or are you have seen such a piece before? Regards, Detlef |
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24th March 2019, 05:28 PM | #4 | |
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Here is a mini-Panabas that has a similar blade profile.
OAL = 18.25 in. Quote:
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24th March 2019, 07:29 PM | #5 | |
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Thank you for showing your nice example for comparison. It's the first other one I've seen until now. Is it just my imagination or see I some nicks at the edge? Could this come from gardening? For me are nicks in an edge are a sign of combat use!? Such a small tabas would be very effective and fast in combat. Regards, Detlef |
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25th March 2019, 02:28 AM | #6 |
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[QUOTE=Sajen]... For me are nicks in an edge are a sign of combat use!? .../QUOTE]
Probably not confirmation of use in combat IMHO. More likely some brittleness in a hardened edge which has chipped when striking something hard--a stone, hard piece of wood or metal, etc. (or even another weapon). Ian |
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29th March 2019, 05:51 PM | #8 |
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Probably not confirmation of use in combat IMHO. More likely some brittleness in a hardened edge which has chipped when striking something hard--a stone, hard piece of wood or metal, etc. (or even another weapon). [/QUOTE]
Hi Ian, Yes, for sure there are different reasons for harmed edges, while Stones or metal by blow contact will cause break outs or bending a nick from edge to edge contact has a typical appearance when you look close. A damage from hard wood I hardly doubt, I've chopped some wood in my life, byself rusted nails in chopped wood get cut with no damage to the edge from the axe. The damage/nicks by the blade in discussion not faultlessly determinable on first view. Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 29th March 2019 at 07:15 PM. |
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