Advice wanted

[Sajen]

I have this keris since years, the blade have been very rusty, the sheat is missing it buntut and it haven't had a handle when I get it and the sheat was painted brown. Now I started to restore it, first I have cleaned the blade because I want to see if a restoration is worthwhile. The iras blade look good after the cleaning and so I cleaned the sheat also.
I am unsure if it is a pure Bugis keris since the gandar is very flat oval and so I want to ask you if you think that this very old sumatran ivory Jawa Deman handle would be adequat for this keris.
Second question, what do you think have to look the buntut? I want to carve a new one from black horn.

Many thank's in advance,

Detlef

[BluErf]

I think this is a Straits Bugis keris. A regular Riau-style jawa demam would be perfect.

The sheath would probably liven up after some oiling and buffing with wax.

The buntut can just be a flat simple oval piece that is slightly larger than the batang. If the inward taper due to wear and tear at the end of the batang bothers you, maybe you can have a silver buntut made with an extension to cover that part.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by BluErf

I think this is a Straits Bugis keris. A regular Riau-style jawa demam would be perfect.

The sheath would probably liven up after some oiling and buffing with wax.

The buntut can just be a flat simple oval piece that is slightly larger than the batang. If the inward taper due to wear and tear at the end of the batang bothers you, maybe you can have a silver buntut made with an extension to cover that part.

Hello Kai Wee,

thank you very much. What you think about the hilt in the picture? And what you think about the pendokok? The problem is that the pesi is very large and this is nearly the only hilt I have in my collection which I can attach.
A flat buntut would be possible, I can cut the batang/gandar a little bit that the wear isn't visible anymore, the blade have enough place.
Of course the sheat will get a covering with shellac to come back to old glory. And the blade will get a decent stain.

Best,

Detlef

[GIO]

It is a pity the selut is too big . The hilt is wonderful
You can find an image of a kris from Minangkabau with the same hilt and wrangka in Jensen's Krisdisk. (cap. 9.2 page 20 fig. 161 a).

[BluErf]

well, the problem is I have never really seen what sort of keris sheath and blade goes with the hilt you have posted. so I'm not sure about it. Also, based on my experience, the regular Riau jawa demam should be ok, but you probably have to find one of sufficient girth. A taller pendoko could be useful in fitting the hilt onto the long pesi.

[David]

Originally Posted by BluErf

A taller pendoko could be useful in fitting the hilt onto the long pesi.

I would say that if you were to use this hilt you would want to find a different pendoko anyway because this one doesn't seem to fit the hilt properly.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by BluErf

well, the problem is I have never really seen what sort of keris sheath and blade goes with the hilt you have posted. so I'm not sure about it. Also, based on my experience, the regular Riau jawa demam should be ok, but you probably have to find one of sufficient girth. A taller pendoko could be useful in fitting the hilt onto the long pesi.

Hello Kai Wee,

you can show me which type of hilt you exactly mean? Thank's in advance,

Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by GIO

It is a pity the selut is too big . The hilt is wonderful
You can find an image of a kris from Minangkabau with the same hilt and wrangka in Jensen's Krisdisk. (cap. 9.2 page 20 fig. 161 a).

Hello Gio,

thank's for the compliment about the hilt. I found a other pendokok for this hilt, picture will follow. The sheat in Jensen's Krisdisk is different, it a pure Minangkabau sheat.